Dear Premiere Putin
I am writing because I have reached an Impasse that has implications for both Anglo-Russian Relations and Russian GDP, an Impasse that is as ridiculous as it is damaging.
Recently I started working for a Russian Pay To Click Company that pays you to view Advertisements online for the generous Fee of 5 Rubles each. After a while you accrue quite a healthy Balance - which I then tried to withdraw via Western Union. The Website tells me that to do this I either need 40 Referrals or can buy some at their Exchange - after which they process your Withdrawal. This I tried to do - and it was here I found a Glitch that seemed insignificant - but actually isn't.
To buy these Referrals I had to make a modest Payment to a Vendor via a Company called Qiwi Bank. A Payment less than £10 in United Kingdom Money - but might as well be Millions for the difficulty in sending it. I was given a 10 Digit Account Number - but my High Street Bank in Britain requires SWIFT, IBAN and BIC Codes to do this. Qiwi - or at least this example of it - don't give you any of these so I can't make a Payment doing this - which would probably cost more to send than the Money being sent anyway.
I did some Internet Research and found that Neteller had the Qiwi Logo on their Website. "No problem" thought I as I have an Account with them and asked their difficult to find Email Support if they could send the Money on my behalf. No they can't apparently, but they can receive it. Hmm, so how about Paypal? I mean, everyone uses it don't they. Chinese Ebay Vendors do and I have bought items from them - using Paypal - and the Money is transferred from GBP to Yuan with no Fee and, sure enough, something arrives in the Mail within a few Weeks. This is despite partial Restrictions on the Internet for Political Reasons and Customs and Excise. Can't do it via that either.
Qiwi issue a prepaid Visa Card - but my Visa Debit Card can't communicate with theirs to do this, so Visa have a card System that is fractured depending on who issued it to you. Qiwi don't have an Office in London - but they have their Machines in the USA - while there doesn't seem to be an English Language Speaker on their Website or Telephone Support. I even asked Russian Friends of mine if they knew someone who could do it on my behalf and I would reimburse them when I received my first payment - with a celebratory Baltica Beer or two.
I tried opening an Account with them - and they do have a +44 Option on their Website - but verification SMS takes so long to arrive - if it does at all - that this is nonviable. Even if I did the online Payment System has an unalterable +7 Prefix so you need a Russian Mobile Number to do this.
I eventually asked the Employers Website Admin if they would subtract the 631 Rubles from my Account to buy these Referrals which means it is paid and they know it has been done without even having to verify it. They have yet to reply to that, although I can't see why they won't - it won't cost them anything and helps them promote their Business abroad.
Why is all this Nickle and Dime Stuff so serious? People might ask. On the surface it might seem trivial, but when 26% of Russians have Qiwi Accounts they use a Finance System that can't seem to receive international Payments from anywhere else in the world. What does that mean for both them and Russian GDP? Qiwi don't seem to have any Structure to facilitate this so it compromises their Account Holders and Russian GDP considerably. It also has a negative Effect - as I am now discovering - on People trying to deal with Russian Business and Employment.
So, for the sake of less than £10 we have all reached an Impasse that could otherwise be very easily resolved.
Yours most sincerely
MetroWynn
While this has shown how fractured Internet Finance is - and how it affects Income and potential Employment - I hope another of these Internet things does pay out like it's supposed to!
ReplyDeleteIf I can see that these things work I can promote them - and those Referrals start earning Money. What this means for Employment in our Country is quite self-explanatory. It also opens a Market for Goods that People only see in the Websites home Country - so if this works it is mutually beneficial! Unlike many People who have been brainwashed in recent Years I'm not a Cold war 3 Russophobe!
I'm someone who remembers the potential of an Accord that was signed by NATO and former Soviet Countries at the start of the 90's, and if Mr Abramovich can buy Chelsea FC - employing People at Stamford Bridge I can do what I can on the Internet!
Oh, I know what some People are going to say - and they'll probably cite some stupid Film Robert De Niro made when they do it (But I remember a certain Film he was in set in one of those Pennsylvanian Steel Towns - about a Russo-American Community if I'm not mistaken). What was it the Chingford Skinhead said about finding work? Not that I particularly like referring to 80's Monetarist Ideology but while it might be difficult to "Get on yer Bike" literally - we can still do it online. If by doing so it helps alleviate Unemployment by creating Work and earning Opportunities for others not in any Ocracy then at least some of us are doing what we can - unlike others who don't know or care what Pr-active means. If some of that Work is Russian based then so be it. Because some of it might be what does that say about the scant Opportunities available in non-Russian Countries? If it helps thaw the new Cold War the that can only be positive!
Heck, at least I'm not drilling Oil for the Bin Laden Family!
Never have, and what this has also shown is how useless the Euro was. Here we have a Russian Based Finance Company who doesn't seem at all linked with any other, and even with the Euro in every other European Union Country - including former Soviet ones now - there is still no effective Conduit - which is to the Detriment of that 26% of Russians who have Accounts with them - and to those of us who are trying to pay into it.
What is staggering, and shows something else about what might be wrong with Society now - is how this is stymied for the sake of a paltry £8.50.
Ironically, it's easier for the Employer to pay me than it is me to pay the Finance Company!
Here's an Update.....
ReplyDeleteAfter we went through all of that, the Referrals were finally bought and the Withdrawal Request has been successful........
Horah, finally, at last etc - except now we have to wait 2 Months for the Withdrawal to be 'Approved' by the Sponsors. Hmmm, but then they tell you that if you want to accelerate that you can advertise on a Bunch of Websites they give you - none of which are free, or pay 500 Rubles for a Phone Call from their Operator - who will go through the Approval Process with you.
After that any Withdrawal Request is processed in 1-2 Hours.
Seems it's one thing after another with these things - and when do we get to the bit where I'm in the Western Union Office collecting my Earnings?
What I've also noticed is how my Referrals don't seem to making any Money.
All in all, the Conclusion I've reached about all this supposed make Money at Home Stuff is it's like writing any amount of Money on a Piece of Paper and telling everyone you're a Millionaire. It's completely meaningless unless that Money is in an ATM or you're paying Rent or buying Food with it.
Either that or it has as many Caveats attached to it as a Roman Bishops 'Paperwork' to a Bunch of Knights in a Jerry Bruckheimer Movie. While I suddenly have to pay to advertise or buy a Phone Call from Seb Dengi's Operator - I also got asked for another $150 by a Canadian based HYIP before I could withdraw Earnings from them!
Not only is it a Hassle to get paid by any of these People - it also has very dangerous Implications that can affect what Money you do have.....
ReplyDeleteWhat if the Tax Man thinks you've got undeclared Income? Worse, what if the DWP does - which will affect your Benefit? So, even though you haven't really been paid by any of these online things - as far as the IRS and DWP are concerned you have. The DWP thing is Catch 22 because you're doing this to try and become financially independent - so you don't need their Payments anymore, but because you haven't been paid, but they think you have you lose Money from your Benefit Payments as well as not being paid for your Work. So don't believe all that Guff about Laptop Lifestyles, People sitting in Coffee Shops tapping away at Computers making Money and being very laid back about it all - it doesn't work like that!
I've tried loads of these things - and none of them have paid....
This Brazilian thing where you review Videos of TV Commercials for an Hour a Day - that Payment Request has been "Successful" for 2 Months - except for some screwed up Reason it doesn't seem to be paid into my Paypal Account. There's this Russian Options thing where I've had 2 Payments of $99 each "In Processing" for the same amount of time. I've mentioned the Bitcoin things elsewhere on this Site - but if these things paid I would have signed off ages ago! I've stopped doing them - but they should count towards finding Work. Then there were these Binary Options Autotraders - they were all crap too!
The other thing which is complete Bulcrap are those horrible YouTube Videos with the cruddy Trance/Techno Muzac showing you have easy it all is as the Cursor dances around the Screen - like they're trying to lure you into some merry Dance of Death! Terrible, all of it - and then you see these Lifestyles - you wonder what it must be like being them!
The question here is; Is there any real Money with any of thee things, or are they just time wasters that say one thing and mean something else?
ReplyDeleteI also notice how Seb Dengi have identical Sites - the only difference being the Name, so are they a Scam with same Owner who also owns the Websites you have to pay to advertise on? When do we stop given them Money and they start paying us?
Meanwhile, here is some non-too positive Stuff about Russian Toxicnet Scams (Yeah, I decided to call that dark Place full of Shysters "Toxicnet" from now on)
ReplyDeleteThe Charity Scam......
There are a few of these, and this is where an Individual, or Organization wants to give you Money - daily, weekly, monthly or a Lump Payment every year, because they "want to help you" etc. Wow, awesome, brilliant (and other Superlatives) you think/say/exclaim/shout - and you do all the required Clicking - then get sent to a Payment Site (usually Epay) where you pay a Fee of a few Rubles! Hmmm, so someone wants to give me anything up to 65,000 Rubles a day - and I have to send them 4 Rubles Fee. If they've got that sort of Money - and offer up to £900 a day - why are they asking me for a paltry Payment like that? Not so charitable after all!!!
Then there's the "Rent your Computer online" Scam.
This is where your Computer, Laptop, Smartphone or Tablet becomes a Host to online "Tenants" who use its Resources and you get paid for it. Again, they then charge you a few Rubles "Commission" - to process your Payment (again, via Epay usually) - but why can't they just deduct that Money from your Payment or have a % of your Earnings?
The App Download/install Scam;
Where you download and install an App that makes you a few 1000 Rubles a day. Again, they charge you a "Fee" to do this - and drone, blah, etc!
The Faucet Scam.
A website claims to collect Bonus's from other Websites and then sends you the accrued amount. Yep, you guessed it, more "Fees" and a lot of Computer Pseudo-Science, but does it pay you the Money?
Russian Toxicnet Scams might use a different Methodolgy, and it's all done in Cyrillic, but they're still Scams. I suppose if they charged you larger amounts of Money you might be put off and not do any of it, so you pay them small (but quite a few) amounts for this or that - but do ANY of them actually pay you? Supposed "Live Chat" with the same Comments you might have seen a few days before, supposed "Testimonials" - showing the same People, day in, day out - while your slightly more objective Comments/Questions are never published or answered! So, at least they have something in common with other Scammers then!
Whether it's these or any of the other Scams mentioned and yet to be discovered - I got fed up with my Life being made Hostage by these horrible People. Site Admins who can't just send you the Money that your Account with them says you have - which could make all the difference! You read those "Testimonials" and wonder what it must be like being them. What's it like to sit in a Coffee Shop, drinking as many Latte's as you like, eat Food - drink Beer - and not worry about where the Money comes from apparently? Y'know, I sometimes think they're part of the Scam too. That if you subscribe to this Scam or that Scam - you can live like this too! Travel where you want, buy what you want, eat where you want, be like those 'Laid Back' People you seem to see every day - in their Cut-off Combats, T'Shirt, Flip Flops, Stubble, Sun Glasses, expensive Car etc
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