Firstly; here's the Scamsite...........
Looks awesome huh, all those huge Payments for comparative modest Investments - while that "Your Profits are 100% safe with us" bit requires some Scrutiny! I asked them how guaranteed it was and their Admin mailed me within the hour that they were "100% Paying" unquote.
So I made my Payment..........................
Note the Address on the Website corresponds with that of the Payment............
Emailed them as instructed, sending them my Bitcoin Wallet Account Number - waited more than 24 Hours.... then looked at my Bitcoin Wallet Account...........
You will see that no Payment has gone into my Account - even after about 36 Hours
So I emailed them sending some of this - and also this.......
https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/c4f0048d241f2033b3f85d224c6fb0c3e3bbffff97449f6abc4b65174a3a6ab2
This is what is called a TX ID - irrefutable Proof that Money was sent to their Bitcoin Address for Investment.
I also contacted these People, a Monitor that promotes and recommends HYIP Programs to People who might otherwise not know about them. They offer a Refund to anyone who hasn't received Payment from Programs People access via their Site...
http://www.tophyip.biz/
I told them that CoinBTC hasn't paid me - sending them these Screenshots and the TX ID so they could see that I wasn't being dishonest and trying to blag a Refund for something I never paid for. I suggested they contact the Program to ask why they haven't paid, while they could drop the Ad and denounce them in their HYIP News Page advising People not to invest. I am no nearer getting a Reply from them than I am getting my Money - (from a Site whose Admin also don't reply to Email AFTER you have paid them - so not so prompt once they have Peoples Money huh!)
I emailed, then emailed - and so on - even telling them about other Scams I had written about and how I kept an anti-scam Journal, still nothing!
I then got a bit sarky and sent them instructions in how to send Bitcoin........
After all, I was starting to think that they didn't know how or something, and it seems it worked - or at least for these People.......
Yep, this is the Monitor which promoted the Website - and still is - while Coinbtc must have figured out how to send Bitcoin from my Email because you can see they say that they made most recent Payment on the 13th April - today! Note the Date and Time in the bottom right hand Corner!
Hmmm, except here's a Screenshot of my Bitcoin Account showing they certainly haven't paid me............
Again, note the Date and Time - you will see that as up to 18.01PM on the 13th April they still haven't paid - and have no intention of paying - me!
I then emailed the Monitor asking them how they can still tell their Readers that the Site is paying, asking them "paying who............ you?"
They have yet to reply - or put pressure on CoinBTC to make good their Promise of Payment to their Customers. So Peoples Profits might be "100% safe with them" but they should rather be 100% safe with us!
Without much adoo - here's todays Screenshot, and everyone is in suspense, the Anticipation is palpable, you could slice up the Tension and sell it...................... And today you get a supporting Feature - y'know - the Film they show before the main one, so the Curtains open, People sip their Kiaora, eat Ice Cream, Popcorn etc.........
Hmm, seems someone has graffiti'ised the Poster for this..........
We have the Intermission/Entracte - the Music plays, People buy more Kiora, Ice Cream, Popcorn etc, the Tension, the Agony of it all - the Suspense............ The Usherette resupplies with Food and Drink, We decide to run a double Screening every evening to cater to the growing Demand.
The Audience starts getting apoplectic, "Awe C'mon" someone shouts, "Hear hear" someone else says, even more People at the back make a Rasp Sound, a few louder Boos and Hisses can be heard, the Projectionist stands outside having a Cigarette shaking his Head in disbelief, someone even throws something................. Nothing, Zilch, Nish!!!!! No Refund, no Payment. People then make for the Box Office for Season Tickets to the next Installment. I start having Meetings with Film Bosses about a potential Franchise, someone offers to do the Merchandising. A TV Company wants to do a Mini-series, a Film-Maker asks to make a Spin-off, Record Companies clamour to release a Soundtrack Album. We begin Work on the "Making of....." Documentary!
TO BE CONTINUED
I will continually update the Screenshot showing that either the HYIP hasn't paid or the Monitor hasn't paid the Refund.
ReplyDeleteI will, of course, update the Screenshot when either 10BTC or the Refund is deposited - saying that there must have been a Gremlin in the System somewhere that was preventing it from going in/being paid!
ReplyDeleteIt was Good Friday yesterday - and those Hot Cross Buns would have been much nicer had that Money been paid. It's Easter Sunday Tomorrow, maybe the Easter Eggs will huh! After all, they say they work 24/7 - including the Holidays!
What I can't figure is the warped Logic of these People. That even if they were complete Scam Artists - Robert Redford and Paul Newman made their "Sting" look and feel plausible. That if a Columnist from some Racetrack Publication came into their 'Shop' they would make it seem like it was a regular Clip Joint. They might place a Bet - and sure enough, get paid. There are other Bloggers - with far more SEO than I have - who might have done this, and then completely buried them with their Report.
ReplyDeleteAlso, by doing this they give away their Modus Operandi, like; is this supposed 'Refund' just a Ruse to obtain Peoples Trust, make them feel like there's no Risk, and the whole thing is completely legit? In "The Sting" we see them spend on their Scam - complete with Bar and a Smattering of 'Customers', while others using it would collect their Winnings without Dispute. It isn't even like - to them - the Amount involved is particularly huge. The Monitor runs a HYIP where they accept Deposits of up to $1000,000 - so what's 10BTC to them, 0.1BTC even less, while even the HYIP could at least offer a Refund if it looks like the Program doesn't work or it's a Ponzi that has run out of Contributors.
And while you can't believe the HYIP please don't believe the Monitor who is telling you Coinbtc are paying - saying they last paid on the 15th April. They still haven't paid me - and probably aren't paying anyone except the Monitor who will continue to promote the Scam/Ponzi
ReplyDeleteAs you can see by today's Screenshot someone somewhere got paid on the 15th - but the last Activity in my Account was when I sent the HYIP my Money on the 10th - so someones being less than honest aren't they!
ReplyDeleteYeah, as you can see - they still insist that CoinBTC are paying - last payout on the "21th" (shouldn't that be 21st) of April - today!!!!
ReplyDeleteExcept my Bitcoin Wallet Account still hasn't received either the Payment or the Refund.
Some in the Audience start seething, others reach for their Smartphones and IPADs - googling both the Monitor and the HYIP. Others are in the Foyer making Placards...
"Scam Artist" one says - "Shyster" says another! Someone appears wearing a T'Shirt with "Just pay the Fella!!!!!" emblazoned on the Front.
Alex Tan at Tophyip.biz still insists they are paying - right up to today, when they still haven't paid me from the 10th of April.
ReplyDeleteThis is like being robbed in full view of the Cops in some horribly corrupt State where if I paid them enough the Cops and Politicians might do something about it. It's the worst kept Secret in Town - while those responsible can't just vanish up some Alleyway. If the Cops and Politicians won't do anything about it - how about People who have to live their Lives by the Rules, run their Businesses in line with Legislation - or risk prosecution and/or being closed down? If so called 'Law Enforcement' WON'T maybe vigilante Justice might.
ReplyDeleteLisa Madigan - Attorney General for Illinois - has started Proceedings against a Scammer making all sorts of Promises to would-be Publishers - where they are supposed to be making $500 a day or something. Legendary Scambuster Ethan Vanderbilt had the Story on his Website... which you can read in a minute, but what is brilliant about what she is doing is how it won't be like Jarndice and Jarndice in "Bleak House" where after Generations and Years - the Judge rules for the Plaintiff - however (cringe) all Proceeds have been used up by the legal System and the only People who will get paid are the Lawyers in a Chancery Court that reduced the Trial to not much more than a continuing Soap Opera.
ReplyDeleteI might forward some of this to her Office because then maybe it'll be taken more seriously, particularly if she then emails the HYIP and the Monitor as an Attorney General - firstly suggesting they pay the People they're supposed to, and that the Monitor pays any promised Refunds which she offered as Guarantee against any HYIPs being a Scam, and secondly; if they don't, and she finds they've scammed Americans, apply for an Extradition Order.
I get the Feeling that some People think this is a Game - a sort of online Strategy thing - but it isn't, while - as "Gatsby" shows, there are Characters like Wolfschein skulking around waiting the pick up the Spoils!
Anyway, here's Ethan Vanderbilts Article.......
http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2017/05/06/wealth-partners-publishing-sued-for-being-a-scam/#more-12632
Oh, and I still haven't been paid either by the HYIP OR Alex Tan at Tophyips.biz!
It means that those Scammed will get Compensation, and when I say that I mean something akin to what Bob Geldof said on that "Live Aid" Broadcast to anyone who might procrastinate about making a Donation, not yet another Weblink to any Sites 'offering' supposed Bonus's or Gifts like some Casino Website that 'offered' £600 which somehow disappeared once you signed up to it. Online Scams are not Fruit Machines or World of Warcraft, they are deliberate Attempts to scam Money from People!
ReplyDeleteIt'd be like her getting an Email that has been somehow delayed since 1968!
ReplyDeleteStill no Payment of 10BTC or a Refund of my Deposit from the Monitor!
ReplyDeleteNo Payment today either..... despite a couple of Emails to Alex Tan asking her to suggest to CoinBTC that they do.... and re-giving her the Bitcoin Address to send it to. Oh, and no Refund..... or Reply.... from her.
ReplyDeleteBefore People think this is Extortion or something, it isn't. I made an Investment in this Program after her Website promoted and guaranteed it, making that Payment on the 10th of April. 1 Month and a Week later that has still to happen. The Blockchain has a Record of every Payment made with Bitcoin since it started in 2009 - however much it might be - and it is impossible to counterfeit. If it wasn't every Bitcoin would be rendered a worthless Batch of Letters and Numerals. In that is a Record of my Payment - irrefutable Proof of my Investment, while the Email they sent me with the Address to send it to supports this - and my Email to them containing my Bitcoin Address, and the lack of Payment received after 24 Hours is also additional Evidence. That and how the Account that Address is kept with has no Record of a 10BTC Payment received.
Maybe this is where some of these powerful People - and certain Families - can show us that there is something resembling Decency in that World of theirs and use their Influence on CoinBTC and Alex Tan to ensure this is resolved. There have been times when they conspicuously haven't!
A lot of Bother went into those People - maybe it's time for them to show us they were worth bothering about!
ReplyDeleteStill nothing, even after I sent them several Emails from my various Email Accounts in case they'd blocked any. Someone somewhere must be able to put pressure on them to ensure they do what they're supposed to. After all, how long have we had the Internet? How many of these huge Internet Companies could contact them and say that they are using their Products - from Microsoft Operating Systems, to Severs, to Google (including their Email Clients) to commit Fraud otherwise. By now - as a Microsoft and Google Customer - I should be able to contact someone in either of these - who could use their huge Resources - to find and request (somewhat persuasively) they keep to their Side of an Agreement or Transaction. Heck, Gmail or your ISP are quick enough to suspend an Email Account if you've sent too many Emails in 24 Hours - except I'm not committing Fraud.
ReplyDeleteSo, as of 14.31PM on Friday the 19th may 2017 I have yet to receive 10BTC from Coinbtc, or 0.1BTC Refund from Tophyip.biz - on a Transaction that was initiated on the 10th April.
Send to..... 33TAM9DHfou3HAVagQWbYWFtKQE17RjK4J
No-one is asking anyone else to give me any of their Money - I just want MY Money, and you'd think that in the Vastness of those very powerful People someone would contact them suggesting that they pay up! An Email with De Rothschild on it, one of these Film Makers who have made a Fortune from our Work backing up some of their Plotlines and Characterizations, Ray Winstone as Ray Winstone, Eric Claptons own Debt Collector - Cap'n Teague - something with "Boston" somewhere on it's Letterhead - the List is endless.
Then I'd be as laid back as anyone else you see enjoying the Weather etc!
Huge Congratulations to CoinBTC and TopHYIP.biz for giving the Tories the big Stick they'll hit you and everyone else with......
ReplyDeleteYeah, I've just read the Stuff the Conservatives are going to do to regulate the Internet. That while some of it is open to Interpretation (for example; when Colonel Brandon said to Willoughby that he thought the Iraq War was a Mistake the latter said "That's Offensive" - like we were never allowed to have an Opinion about any of that), some of it is quite horrible - like the Pornographic Priestesses that some Dating Site kept sending to my Email, while there's worse, and some is Politically awful, where's the voluntary Code of Conduct when it comes to Internet Crime?
There isn't one, and while these People use Microsoft and Google Products to commit Fraud - the Internet treats it all like it was a Game. Like the Scam-Scam Reviews Website were part of some Equation Sports Commentators could comment on, like it all went on in some Arena like they were Gladiators or something. But nothing is resolved because People are wafty about it and see both sides of both sides. Theresa May said it should be as difficult to commit Crime on the Internet as it is anywhere else - but while People see these Scams on their Monitors like they watch a Crime on CCTV - including Employees of these huge Internet Companies - does anyone do anything about it?
There's the Arbitrariness of what we have at the moment - where instead of there being some basic Rights and Wrongs and that's it, other Scam Reviewers pitch their Stuff in a way that suggests they might as well not bothered. Like the Scam and other things that might have been wrong have become so entwined their endorsement of the latter taints their Review of the former.
This was never meant to be a Scam Reviewers Website, but the most recent Stuff has become that because of all this. That I felt I had to write and present it so I felt what needed to be said was said - and how it should be, without the subjectivised Taint of some others. It's like supposed Consumer Affairs in Medialand now only applies to certain People - the rest can get scammed to death!
Because I can't go to anyone at Microsoft or Google - whose huge Resources could trace, face and correct the Scammers - obtaining a Result on my behalf and a deterrent to the Scammers - we now have a Government who are going to do it for them. Everyone from Bill Gates to Mark Zuckerburg must see this as foreboding, but there are no both sides to both sides when People like CoinBTC and Tophyip.biz can scam with impunity.
A Conspiracy Theorist could say that they were working for all that anyway. Online Agent Provocateurs sent to compromise the Integrity of the Internet. Often wondered how they kept getting away with it!
At least it seems Facebook have blocked any mention of Tophyip.biz - which looks like a Result - meaning that they can't promote themselves there. Not sure when they decided to do that - but it might have something to do with this. What that also means is you can't employ a double Psychology with them there either. Some People will mention a Scam by Name deliberately because some will always click on the Link to see what all the Fuss is about - only to end up being lured into it. When they do this they don't post any Proof that the Site is a Scam like you might see here. I've shown that both CoinBTC and Tophyip.biz look scammy - at least as far as my Dealings with them are concerned. They've redefined Recalcitrance and Obtuseness in both their refusal to Pay AND not replying to Email asking them why they haven't.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Facebook have some Principles after all! Hope Google, MSN, Yahoo, YouTube....etc start doing the same!
I sometimes wonder how many of these Cryptocurrencies actually exist. it seems there's a new one every week - and there are already 100's of them. That they're like these Scam Sites that seem to replicate themselves every day. All I know is, so far - real Money has gone into the Cryptocurrency World - and none seems to have come back. It's almost like some hyped up Nonsense - done in exactly the same way they did the Commodities and Stock Markets in the 1920s - or the Securities Market of the early 21st Century (toxic Financial Products that caused the recent Crash). The latest ones look totally made up. ETHB, Trumpcoin, Dixcoin - I mean ....... really!!!! How much of this has more to do with the 'Paperwork' than any real Currency?
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone would like to send me a Bitcoin Debit Card linked to an Account with some Bitcoins in it so I can see that they do, indeed, exist - and it isn't just some elaborate Scam designed to empty your almost compulsory Debit Card!
Dogecoin!!!!?????
I notice that they're still running this Scam - while Tophyips.biz still promotes them. Also, still no Refund and no 10BTC Payment either! I suppose you could say they were consistent!
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, here's another Bitcoin Scam you should know about.
This started on Facebook. People would post on Facebook about a 'Mining' System where they can "Connect" your Blockchain Wallet to a "Network" which would invest the Wallets Contents. To do this you had to give them the Wallet Address and Password so they can access and configure it. Suffice to say that as soon as they gain access to the Account it is emptied and that is the end of that. No "configured" Wallet in any "Network" - just emptied.
This one works in a similar way except you don't deal with anyone on Facebook Chat. How it works is via a Website called Bitcoin Bonus, where they ask you for the same Details and the same probably happens. You try logging into your Account and get the confirmation Email to verify it. When you do you get asked if a different IP Address can access it. It doesn't give you the location of the other IP Address which is suspicious so you (should) click "Reject".
Also, while the real Blockchain URL appears thus;
https://blockchain.info/wallet/#/login
The spoof one appears;
https://bl0ckchaine.info/wal1et/#/login
You'll notice that it is spelt slightly differently, while there is a "0" instead of an "o" in "Block".
The Form Fields appear in Grey instead of Cream too!
The rest of it functions like your Wallet Login Page - a Link to Blockchain does work - but then anyone can put a URL into the Site couldn't they, or write it in the HTML.
It looks like another Scam attempting to access your Account and empty it.
According to Tophyips.biz (or should that be Refundsbutnotreally.con?) Coinbtc are based in Germany. If Ms Merkel wanted to convince us Brits that the EU was ever worth bothering about maybe she ought to have told her Finance Minister to make some Inquires and ensure all Payments are made. Who knows, this might even be mentioned in Brexit Negotiations. Because they (Germany) didn't I might see the 10BTC Payment as Reparations.
ReplyDeleteUpdate .....
ReplyDeleteFinally - after 7 Months - got a Reply to an Email from Coin.BTC.
They tell me that there is 10BTC in my Account, but I have to pay Tax.
Here's what HMRC say about Tax on Bitcoin ......
"HMRC will only tax you when you transfer your bitcoins into pound coins. and its taxed just like any other income. so if you withdraw £20k then that is your income. combine it with all your other income and work out the tax."
So, firstly you don't pay Tax on any Bitcoin UNTIL you transfer it into GBP - which means ......
Secondly, any Bitcoin Transaction is Tax free until you decide to do this.
There might be Tax payable at their end, but Income Tax is based on actual Income, NOT Money that will be sent elsewhere. Otherwise every time any Bank Wire Transfer is made that would be taxed before it is sent - and everyone knows that it isn't. That 10BTC is my not their Income, but any Tax might be paid on whatever Proceeds they made in the creation of that 10BTC. After all, there has to be something in it for them, which I don't begrudge at all, but any Tax on this they are liable for on any % they made. If their Tax Law is the same as ours then they also only pay Tax when they transfer BTC into whatever Currency they use!
I'm sure I'm on safe Ground here when I say that Proceeds from Bitcoin Investment Programs are probably treated like same from Binary Options. They are regarded by UK Tax Law as Gambling and thus, exempt from Tax. You send Money to a HYIP (that actually pays) like you would a Binary Options Broker. Also, no Binary Options Broker I ever withdrew Money from ever asked me for Tax before they sent it. If they did (and I'm sure the Cypriot Finance Minister would have made a Fortune in Revenue if they taxed ALL Transactions from the many Options Companies based there) this would have been paid at Source and from Monies sent, not asked for in advance.
ReplyDeleteIf a HYIP asks you for "Tax" before they send you your Money they're probably just trying to scam from you!
There's no mention of "Tax" on either their Homepage or the FAQ Page. Any HYIP that does mention Tax always stipulate that any Tax Liability is subject to the Tax Law of the Participants Country of Residence. I've just explained what that is in regards to ours!
ReplyDeleteAs you can figure I now have a regular Email exchange with these People - which is a Start!
Anyway, who ever heard of paying Tax on Money that might be paid? If you were self-employed and did some Work for someone for £1000 where there is Tax Liability of 25% you don't pay them £250 before they pay you! Even in a PAYE Environment any Tax is paid at Source before you receive Payment.
ReplyDeleteHaving established the Tax Law here and how it applies to all this hopefully all will be resolved! To confirm I'll be contacting someone at the German Equivalent of HMRC to ask what their Rules are regarding this. I sometimes wish William Ormsby-Gore was still alive because if they messed him around like they are me he wouldn't bother with Email, he'd tell them on the Phone that his next Call will be to Ms Merkel!
ReplyDeleteAnd this Story continues .....
ReplyDeleteAfter becoming Mr Exasperated 2017 in my continuing Dispute with Coinbtc it looked like that was that. Then, in December 2019 I got an Email from them offering a Scheme where we tapered the "Tax" payable in Increments. After the previous Tussle I was reluctant to send any Money at all, disputing liability for any "Tax" what so ever. This went on for another 6 Months then stopped like it did before.
The thing is, I now have an Email from them confirming that the "10 BTC" does exist, otherwise why ask me for "Tax" on it?
After a lot of Research, tracking Web hosting and Domains - which involved Companies from America, South Africa, London and Germany - I offered to pay the "Tax" but only via an Escrow Company. I found one that was prepared to do this, but they warned against Scammers spoofing even their Websites. Escrow is where you pay Money to someone via a separate Company, who then keeps it pending that someone paying you via them. They then disburse Funds to the Intended. The Idea being that should either default on Payment Moneys are returned.
I told Coinbtc about this and they refused, saying they didn't deal "with 3rd Parties". Hmmm, but why, if everything was legit?
And because I questioned Coinbtc's insistence that I pay "Tax" before they pay me my Account with them was "frozen". A bit harsh considering due Diligence on my part, asking them to tell me which Countries Tax Laws applied so I could verify Liability, while also contacting HMRC whose Worker seemed to agree with me.
ReplyDeleteThe Escrow Company I was going to enlist confirmed my Suspicion that Coinbtc's "Tax" Policy is just more of the same Scam where they extract more Money from you.
Not sure what any of this has to do with Italian IT Workers in Lombardy, Acid in Faces, the Dark Web and some Bulshit Story on BBC2.
ReplyDeleteIt continued ......
ReplyDeleteYet more Arguements about "Tax", "Diane" being evasive about which Countries Tax Laws applied and so on, then on Feb 14th I mentioned that their Web Hosting expires on 3rd of March and any "Funds" they might hold will disappear.
Her Reply;
"We will renew the hosting services, this is no problem. As long as you pay taxes, we will pay you."
And guess what, Coinbtc.biz have closed, or at least no longer hosted by that particular Provider.
Not sure if that was a Result on our Part, by continuing to document this Story here or they had no Intention of keeping to their Pledge that they would continue after March 3rd - but what is certain is you couldn't believe their HYIP!
And it seems "Diane" has bought a veritable Armada of Boats with the Money she stole from us .....
ReplyDeletehttps://uk.boats.com/sailing-boats/2012-lagoon-500-7722578/
https://uk.boats.com/sailing-boats/2005-ocean-voyager-74-7796625/
https://uk.boats.com/sailing-boats/2020-neel-51-7727333/
Just some Examples pulled from one of those Boat Websites. Shows that it isn't just Hyips you can't believe and how those running the Internet aren't only complicit but positively gloating about it all!
What is particularly irksome about this is how I went about it completely honestly. I even phoned HMRC to ask about Tax Liability should any be due and was quite prepared to pay whatever Capital Gains Tax I was responsible for. Y'know, reputable Tax rather than whatever very ambiguous "Tax" "Diane" was on about.
ReplyDeleteBut it seems large parts of the Internet fall on the side of the Scammer, or at least don't do very much to discourage them.
The Crypto-Community actively encourage some of it.
Maybe as an Act of good Faith and to improve my Opinion about Crypto-Currency they would like to crowd fund to ensure I receive something towards what was pledged by Coinbtc in 2017, 4 years ago!
If they did they could send it to
bc1qupwmz20gyf4rj2u6svmug4n3lw6er5m3r0ag2g
.... and we'll call it quits, describing it as resolved!
And as one Book closes, another one opens.
ReplyDeleteThis one will be about so called 'Cloud Mining' Programs that offer supposedly generous ROI - and look quite sophisticated, but are nothing more than HYIPs disguised as something more plausible!
This one is even more cute.
ReplyDeleteSo called "Instant Cloud Mining"
Abbreviated to ICM this supposed Mining Program offers very (read TGTBT or too good to be true) Hash Rates and even more generous Remuneration. Claiming to have an Algorithm that is supposed to yield these Results it seems to outstrip other firmly established Mining Companies like Genesis and Hashflare.
It even offers a free Contract, except there are certain criteria attached which are familiar to Victims of similar Scams. These are set out as "Tasks", the main one being the old tired and rusted "Affiliate Link" which is where you have to obtain Referrals. Not sure how many but the Idea is to propagate the Website to other Vict ... , sorry, Clients. They even send you an Email offering a "PayPal Adder" as a Carrot to coer .... sorry, encourage you to do this. How something like this can somehow add Money to your PayPal Account is a Question for them, while PayPal might also have some Questions about it.
Also, if ICM mines Bitcoin and Etherium how is it going to pay into a Fiat based PayPal Account anyway?
There are several other "Tasks" you must complete to obtain your free Contract including activating your "Military Grade" Wallet. Apparently, this Wallet is the Kevlar, Bullet proof equivalent of a Crypto-Wallet - it says here, according to this etc.
Then we get to paying them Money.
You do this to buy or upgrade your Contract with them. The Problem is, if you are cautious and want to start modestly, buying a basic Contract puts you "in a Queue", but sure enough, if you want to avoid this you can "upgrade" by - you guessed it - giving them more Money.
Problem here is, despite claiming to add to PayPal Accounts, and paying you via it, you can't use PayPal to pay them. PayPal are brilliant at claiming back Refunds in a Dispute and sanctioning Defaulters - but you don't have any of this Protection. I asked them about this and was assured they have no interest in scamming People, making Money from Fees and %ages. That they will refund you if you aren't satisfied.
So you have to pay them in Bitcoin, regardless of what payment method you choose. Then you wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, for your Contract to be activated. You email "George" at their "Support" but they start becoming evasive. You message many times on WhatsApp but nothing happens.
Also, if this is supposed to be the next Generation in Crypto-Mining, better than other more established Companies, why do they use a Wix Website? Doing a Whois told me this, while also telling me they started earlier this year, not "2017"!
Watch this Space as I document this Story, while I will start a new Post about it.
It continues .....
ReplyDeleteWhile they sent Emails telling us about a "PayPal Generator" a few days ago (which PayPal might have a few Questions about), today we received a Communique about how they will be accepting Card Payments. I suspect they are reading this.
If they are it is now May 18th and we are still no nearer having the Account activated that was paid for in BTC on May 9th.
Until this happens, and several successful Withdrawals have been made I wouldn't recommend anyone sent them anything!
They are still using the same Bitcoin Wallet Address - which has lured others up to the 17th of May sending Money.
ReplyDeleteIf you are one of them you can use this......
https://www.bitcoinabuse.com/reports/3Mkw6VMEU4VdGTQ5c1hnxMFePqhH8cDF96
To report it.
Wow, gosh, good heavens, blimey, cripes and crikey ..... "George" finally contacted me via email to tell me that basic Contracts are "out of stock"! Presumably they will try and sell me a premium one that "isn't", for an additional Fee of course.
ReplyDeleteMight have been nice to have known this BEFORE any Money was sent, y'know - something on their Website saying so!
The thing is "George" like all those supposed Job Opportunities at ICM probably doesn't exist. That there's something juxtapositionally pre-emptive going on here that has more to do with Tear stained Guitars than Investment Companies.
ReplyDeleteAs for selling me something that was no longer available .....
ReplyDeleteWhat do you suppose would happen if a Shop did the same thing? If I bought a Box of Corn Flakes, opened it to find it empty except a Note saying "Sorry, these are currently unavailable"?
What is exasperating about all this is how these wretched Scams continue with apparent Impunity when they could so easily be monitored, not by those equally crooked HYIP 'Monitors' but but by the relevant Law Enforcement Organisations.
And you don't need 1000s of People Hours doing Surveillance, Raids, Weapons and Body Armour and all the other Accoutrements of Law Enforcement.
All you need as someone at Interpol quite literally doing what I am right now. Online with a Smartphone, surfing the Web for HYIP Monitors, using Google who've done half the Work. A HYIP Monitor displays/promotes dozens of them, either for direct Advertising or Affiliate Payments. You click on each and go straight to their Admin or Customer Support Contact Details. You send each of them a preprepared Email from the Interpol Website telling them they are being kept Tabs on. How you look forward to their Responses and Comments, and you will do regular Web Searches to find Complaints from Victims. If you find any, you do a Whois to trace Hosting Providers then notify the relevant Agency wherever that Provider is.
And that's it, and how you at least make a sizable Dent in a multi-Million $ Crime, or at least ensure some compliance from the Perpetrators.
As I discovered by contacting Wix who host this ICM Scam any Individual reporting the Abuse isn't necessarily ignored, the Provider doesn't seem to want to do anything, even though they might knowingly be an Accessory to Fraud.
Shops, Restaurants, Factories, Employers - everyone - are continually monitored for Compliance to everything from not having misleading Displays to tackling Infestation, Manufacturing Standards to Health and Safety at Work, so why shouldn't HYIPs, wherever they are, have to play by the same Rules?
And also, according to "George" I was "in a Queue"..... which, as I mentioned, could be jumped if I paid more Money for an "Upgrade"! So, is this Crypto-Mining (which, apparently, it says here, is supposed to be more eco-friendly than conventional Bitcoin Mining) or are we selling Beatles ("A Day in the Life") or Sex Pistols ("EMI") Records?
ReplyDeleteTell ya what "George", why don't I forward your URL and this to President Biden who can checkout your supposed mining eco-credentials! He has expressed concern about the Impact of Crypto-Mining on the Environment. So has Elon Musk.
And now I am told he "will deliver" my "Product"!
ReplyDeleteNot sure what "George" means here.
Has he turned into an Uruk from a Peter Jackson Movie? Is this "the Paperwork" in disguise and he's the Ring Leader?
About the only thing 'real' about this so far is the Bitcoin Payment I sent him on the 9th of May!
What is staggering about the Cryptoverse is how they couldn't even get the Public Relations right.
ReplyDeleteWhen the whole Coinbtc debacle went on for 4 years People in the Crypto-Community must have read some of this. That no-one approached "Diane" and told her that her Conduct was making them look bad and maybe she should just pay up suggests an Arrogance on their part and a lack of moral Compass. While nothing happened with any of them the Fiat Currency World would at least insist on a Refund. PayPal and Credit Card Companies do this, and even a Bank might compensate a Customer should something go awry.
If their supposed Utopianism was genuine they'd have insisted this happened to demonstrate that they are somehow better than established financial Institutions. Ethicists don't commit Theft.
The 'Monitor' Tophyps.biz were complicit, not just with promoting Coinbtc but also refusing any Requests for a Refund, even though their Website claims they do.
About a Trillion $ has been wiped off of the Value of Cryptocurrency in the last week or so but because of all this not many People feel particularly sorry for it.
Conventional Business, that has to comply with all sorts of Regulations must see this apparent Impunity with disdain. Even conventional Criminals must be aghast at an apparent double standard. If they committed their Robberies as blatantly and publicly they'd be arrested before they did it, while even they know that if you botch the PR you don't last very long.
And that yields the biggest Irony.
ReplyDeleteThese have been described as Ponzi Schemes, but when their Namesake Charles Ponzi was rumbled in the 1920's he went to Gaol and was eventually deported. His "Securities Exchange Company" Activities were halted and apart from a brief Foray into fraudulent Land Speculation in Florida - selling submerged Swampland via a Company called Charpon - that was it.
Meanwhile, how can a HYIP that started as recently as 4th May this year have made 29,140 payouts when it is still only May 21st? That'd be an average of 1618 a day, every day, 67.4 every Hour, 1.1 every Minute.
ReplyDeleteThere must be an automated "Paid out" Template full of supposed Recipients and amounts that you can add to a HYIP Website like all the other ready made Widgets available.
Either that or they must have had one helluva Launch to get that many Subscribers that fast and an Army of Payment Processors.
Which don't seem to want to process my Withdrawal Request, which has been "pending" since May 18th. So who are all these other 29,140 whose have?
ReplyDeleteAnother Trick they try is where you can't reinvest with your accrued Balance. This is Money made with a previous Investment so you don't have to feed more Cash into the Pug. When I wanted to do this I was told "Sorry, Deposit with selected Processing is temproary (yep, typo included) forbidden". When I tried the same Plan with additional Money there was no Problem, except I wasn't prepared to pay anything more into it until the Withdrawal has been processed and sent. The Scam here is how that "Balance" is most probably nothing more than a Number on a Screen, Money that doesn't exist, while they need your additional Cash to pay others in the Pyramid. If they're paying anyone at all.
And how about these "Paid out" Lists? While many HYIPs just publish a List of Usernames, Amounts, Currency, Date and Time, some even show a Wallet Address and/or TX ID. All very verifiable, except have a look at the Amount. Is there really any point in someone 'withdrawing' £1.47 - sometimes less? The Idea is to show that the HYIP is "paying", except with a very modest Budget of about £50 you could appear to "pay" dozens of People. Some are the 'Monitors' who continue to promote the HYIP, others might even be a Wallet owned by the HYIP Admin.
Don't get me started on the Doublespeak they employ to slither about in.
You've probably realised that after years of this, and reading many Reports by Victims of this Fraud I despise these People. They are something akin to a Maggot in your Food, Poo on the Pavement, something lousy. They particularly target the desperate, People who are struggling on meagre Incomes, while their doing it with such Impunity suggests foul play elsewhere! When I went through a lot of this I had been trapped on Welfare for years and I feel for the many others who also have.
How I wish I could write a glowing Review of one of these, that actually did work and paid when asked - but there just seems to be one scammy Scheme after another. I despise the Hosting Companies who give them the Infrastructure knowing exactly what is going on, the Programmers who reduced themselves to writing the Code that make the Templates they use to build their Sites and those appalling 'Monitors' who promote them for a Fee.
Maybe instead of People griping on the Internet - which is another Facet of the HYIP Soap Opera, and has become as clichéd - we should form an Action Group to start putting Pressure on Governments to do something about it. We could scan the Internet - collating a List of our own, those lousy 'Monitors' promoting this Trash - putting them all in an Email and sending it to Attorney Generals Worldwide! And keep doing so until they do act.
ReplyDeleteMaybe President Biden and Elon Musk would be fascinated to hear about "George's" 'Magic Formula' that not only offers a higher Hash Rate (no Pun intended) and Payments than other established Mining Companies, but also is far more eco-friendly. While the former are Ploys to sell an apparently good ROI the latter is obviously to stave off eco-criticism about Bitcoin Mining.
Today we are being told that "Basic" and "Advanced" Contracts are "out of Stock". Unlike other Mining Companies they didn't display this on the Website. We have to find out AFTER we have sent them Money. As I said, it's like buying a Box of Corn Flakes, opening it to find it empty, and a Note saying "Sorry, this Item is currently unavailable!"
ReplyDeleteOf, course more expensive Contracts are still available, presumably meaning that for a bit more Money you can get an "upgrade"!
They apologize for being uncommunicative, but if they said on their Website that some Contracts are "out of stock" they wouldn't have to contact everyone via Email or Telegram to tell them would they!
This wouldn't be a Ruse to get People to buy more Contract Hash Rate as any mined Bitcoins have plummeted in value in the last few Weeks?
Just glanced at their Website and both Basic and Advanced Contracts are marked "Available". I don't think you can believe anything they tell you!
ReplyDelete.....And while these Scams persist I hope Cryptocurrencies plummet to nothing so at least their ill-gotten Gains become worthless.
ReplyDeleteOne thing is apparent, the posting of Complaints on many of those Websites set up to report Scams only goes some way towards a Deterrent. To see the Scammers employ the same Techniques they were a few years ago proves this. I'll do what I can - telling you what might be hidden up the Scam Conjourers Sleeve - and how they do it - but I can't be everywhere at once! If you were the Victim of Cryptofraud and read this, recommend it to others.
What I will also say is this .....
Cryptotheft isn't "Lord of the Rings". There is no Frodo Hood robbing from the Rich and giving to the Poor with these things. Stolen Coin isn't Saurons Ring from the Tolkien Epic. It's organised Crime that doesn't even play by the Rules other Criminality does. Hypocrisy in its worst Form, very lucrative, robbing from the Poor to give to themselves - and not at all eco-friendly. The Yippies in Baggishead might flounce about in those Hobbit Trews but they're as much a bad Joke as those Claddingate Flats they built here.
And today's Communique from "George" after I suggested he gave me a free "Upgrade" as Compensation for his selling something that wasn't available .....
ReplyDelete"Where?"
It's like he isn't even looking at his own Website, despite their apparently "working hard on Fixes and Features".
Either that or he's a Scumbag who is in denial even when confronted with the Facts!
Cripes and crikey "George" will activate my Account (it says here, according to this, allegedly, so we're told etc) except as someone once said in a Film he fails to specify when or where!
ReplyDeleteIf I decide to have a Refund of the Money I gave him on the 9th of May I'll have to be paid in GBP to the Amount I paid, not BTC which has dropped about 40% in value. 0.00487 BTC isn't worth what it was then!
Still no Account or Contract Activation, despite it being 36 Hours since "George" told me he was going to.
ReplyDeleteI sometimes wonder if the People running these Scams like "Diane" and "George" are employees of large Internet Companies. It might explain why anyone embattled with them finds themselves fighting on an unlevel Playing Field.
ReplyDeleteGoogle put Stories on their Homepage and the current Batch seem to support "Diane" at Coinbtc.info rather than any aggrieved Parties scammed by "her"! That Crap she kept spouting about "Tax" even after I sent the definitive Statement from, and spoke to, our HMRC about it. How she refused to tell me which Country she operated in so I could research the Tax Position there.
"George" seems to be hiding behind his "weepy Guitar" rather than stop f*****g about and activate the Contract I bought from his Instant Cloud Mining Site 20 days ago!
And part of the same Scam are the so called Reclamation Companies.
ReplyDeleteThese are People supposedly there to reclaim Monies for Victims of Internet Scams. Binary Options to Cryptocurrency, they claim they can get your Money back, or Monies owed, for an upfront "Fee" of 10% plus another 7-11% on Completion. "Diane" at Cointbtc had reneged on paying 10bitcoins since 2017. By earlier this year Bitcoin was increasing in Value exponentially; £30,000 - £35,000 - £40,000 - £45,000. Thus; as it increased any 10% would also increase. 10 X £30,000 = £300,000 thus 10% = £30,000 - rather a lot of Money for something that has no guarantee of Success, even more as BTC went up to £45,000! As the Value went up so did the Phone Calls touting for Business, but I was reluctant to give a complete Stranger nearly £50,000!
I'd have quite gladly paid them AFTER the Money had been reclaimed but not before!
The thing is, how can they charge a % anyway? Surely, legal or investigative Work has a finite Cost - whether you go after £1000 or £100,000 and do they show you an itemised Account of Expenditure as they do it? Just how difficult it it to trace HYIP Scammers anyway? From the Hosting Company to the Crypto-Wallet People on the Blockchain they leave an indelible Trail while probably the most expensive part of the Operation might be travelling to and hiring a Lawyer in whatever Country they operate. Certainly doesn't cost up to £45,000!
A lot of HYIPs use a Hosting Company based in Phoenix, Arizona, USA and were it not for the Lockdown Restrictions I was prepared to travel there, donate generously to any Phoenix, AZ Community Law Center and pay the Hosting Company a Visit. Maybe even ask the Phoenix FBI Field Office if they ever subpoenaed the Companies Records for suspected Fraud so the Perps can't hide behind Privacy Protection. All very gumshoe Investigative Work, but still cheaper than paying a "Reclamation" Company to do same.
Also, if these People are as successful and influential as they claim wouldn't a verifiable Email to the HYIP have been enough to convince them to pay up? And that doesn't cost anything!
"Diane" at Coinbtc has ceased trading, or at least that Website has gone offline, but she still owes me 10btc.
If "she's" reading this and has something vaguely resembling even a hint of a Conscience maybe she'd like to send those 10BTC to this Address and we'll put it all down to a misunderstanding .....
ReplyDeletebc1qupwmz20gyf4rj2u6svmug4n3lw6er5m3r0ag2g
And this isn't the age old Story of someone having quite a few Coins in a Wallet and they've either lost or forgotten the Passwords or Keys. Or the Man who offered Millions to a Landfill Site if he could search it for a Harddrive he threw away with 1000s of Bitcoins on it. It's being the Victim of a thoroughly recalcitrant and dishonest Woman running an Internet Scam, and one that went on for 4 years!
ReplyDeleteThere are many Stories about People who can't access Coins they do have, many are those described above. There is another Group of People who suffer the same, but through no Fault or Neglect of their own.
Xapo - an online Wallet Provider - suddenly decided to change the Login Criteria which meant People could no longer access their Accounts. I only had a few £s in mine so didn't suffer particularly, but some might have had 1000s! Imagine the Furore if People suddenly found their PIN Number was no longer valid at an ATM! There would be a queue of irate Customers wanting to talk to the Bank about it!
This thing with Xapo was Catch22. You couldn't contact Customer Support until you logged into your Account, but you couldn't log into your Account unless you contacted Customer Support!
I'm sure what Xapo did was illegal. What would happen if your Bank did this and suddenly your Debit Card doesn't work or PIN Sentry is disabled? Where were the SEC?
ReplyDeleteAnd how about the Media?
If you look at the Date at the start of this Post it says "Thursday April 13th 2017". That means "Diane" at Coinbtc.info ran that HYIP for 4 years after I made People aware of it. Her web Hosting expired this March and the Site went offline. In that time all sorts of People started to know about it, from Crypto-Fans to Internet People, to general Public ..... and the Media!
When I was at the Waldorf doing a Hostage Release Press Conference, present was a Hostages Cousin who used to do a Radio 4 Show called "You and Yours". When he wasn't doing that he did another as John Waite hosted the Consumer Affairs Program "Face the Facts"!
When I wasn't at the Waldorf I might have been at the BBC in Bristol having a Coffee and Chat with someone else who hosted a Consumer Affairs Program - John Turner.
Both would quite regularly work on a Story which would conclude with someone getting a Refund, Replacement Item or Service, Goods they had bought but deprived of and in many Instances Compensation. In other Words a Result that was always pro-active and positive.
There used to be a superb TV Show called "The Cook Report" where Roger Cook would travel the World tracking down everyone from shoddy Insurance Scammers to Arms Traffickers. He would have door stepped "Diane" etc, filming her as he might have said; "The bottom line is you're just a grubby little Crook aren't you Diane!" or something to that effect. She might have had a Minder who'd clobber him with a Golf Club - but he'd still say it and the rest of us know what she looks like while he did.
And apparently, someone on Facebook promoting this Trash is "overwhelmed" by another HYIP Scam Shite. Same Crap as before, same lying Claims about ROI, same fake "Payouts List, and probably lots and lots of pending Withdrawals.
ReplyDeleteThe Question is, is it hat Denim Jacket Blue .... or Red, and should we sing "Baa Baa Black Sheep" in Italian?
Oh, and I thought the "Deaf, Dumb and Blind Kid" was called Tommy, not Jason!
Is this conclusive Proof that these Scams can be traced back to Portishead?
ReplyDeleteAnd the Bulshit continues .....
ReplyDeleteWhen a HYIP or anything else that claims to make, and more importantly, pay out, Money online they always publish those "latest Deposits" and latest Payouts" Lists. I've mentioned how they often pay out tiny amounts of Money to show that they do, which might even be to their own Wallets (you can create multiple Wallets in Blockchain), or to the Monitors who then say they are "paying".
But just how genuine are they?
One HYIP which had only started earlier this Month (May) had made nearly 30,000 in only a few Weeks, which is very unlikely.
What reinforces this is how, if you call up the Page with these Lists - then refresh the Browser - you might see a different List every time. This means they would be processing up to 30 Payments in the time it takes you to click "refresh" and the Browser to load up on your Screen. Wow, not even a top notch pitman trained shorthand Typist could to that.
More Lies .....
ReplyDeleteMost HYIPs have a Stats Page.
This is where they lie to you about how much has been deposited with them, how much they have paid out (I even found one that showed more deposited than paid out so Ooops!!!!) and this one is important ..... "Days online"!
Bring up this useful Website.....
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html?d1=30&m1=05&y1=2021&
Then enter today's Date in the required Field, choose "Subtract", then add the Number of Days online claimed.
The other thing they love showing is their Certificate from Companies House, like gosh, wow etc, they must be legit huh!
Hmmm, have a look at the given Date on it. If it tallies with the Time and Date Calculated Figure then fine, if it doesn't someone somewhere might be telling Porkies!
There are other things that might detect inconsistencies ....
Like the Registration Date of the Site on Whois ......
https://who.is/
This also tells which hosting Company they use and might even have Contact Details for it. If the Registration Date is different again to either of the above then it's looking very bogus!
More than a Week has elapsed since "George" told me he was going to activate my Contract with Instant Cloud Mining.com and we are still no nearer having that done than we were right at the start. No nearer having a Reply to elaborate exactly when he will do it - either by Email or WhatsApp, so presumably it would be the same if I asked him for a Refund.
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, when I sent them 0.00487btc on 9th of May Bitcoin was worth £41,000. Today it is £26,000 so if he sent me it in Bitcoin it would be worth about 35% less than when I sent it. Maybe I'll ask it in GBP instead huh!
What this would mean should it be activated and I wanted to make a Withdrawal is a Question for them! Probably even less chance of that than this!
ReplyDeleteBack at the now defunct Coinbtc.info after "Diane" ceased trading and her Website closed in March without paying my (and presumably anyone elses) Bitcoins I hope she pays the "Tax" on what must be quite a large Capital Gain! After all, she banged on about often enough with us!
ReplyDeleteParticularly as March is the end of the Tax year and People have to pay theirs in April!
ReplyDeleteAt today's Rate those 10 Bitcoins are worth £260,000, but if there are several other People she failed to remunerate then that Figure probably runs into Millions. She ran Cointbtc for at least 4 years, her Website always featured on Tophyips.biz (who don't "refund" People should a promoted HYIP renege on ROI).
So, here's hoping President Biden will be just as keen on pressing these People to pay up as he might the rest of us!
So "Diane", if you're reading this, or anyone who knows her is, then maybe you'd like to send me those 10 BTC you've not bothered to since April 2017.
ReplyDeletebc1qupwmz20gyf4rj2u6svmug4n3lw6er5m3r0ag2g
And here's a Question .....
ReplyDeleteAll that Crap "Diane" kept prattling on about, "Tax" etc. Is she a He and was this as much a "Start" as anything to do with "Tax"? Either that or she's an old Bag who went on about "Joiners" all the time. Maybe she's an old Pastry from the 1970's!
And these things still proliferate, even as People become sceptical of anything to do with Cryptocurrencies ..
ReplyDeleteThere's one that claims to have paid $940485003800 in Withdrawals in the "1515 Days" it has been online. Phew, crikey, wow, gosh, etc huh!
To dismantle and clarify that bewildering string of Numbers it is a whopping Nine Hundred and Forty Billion, Four Hundred and Eighty Five Million, Three Thousand Eight Hundred Dollars - all paid out by a Website that could be a bit more professional and with that sort of Acumen would have Call Centers all over the World offering Customer Support and Sky Scraper Offices that would rival Trump Tower in New York. They don't - and even if they did their Legion of Payment Processors would be churning out $620782180.7260 a day in Withdrawals.
Not bad for one Man whose own Companies House Filing History tells us his total Company Assets were £5482 up to July 2020.
So presumably we shall be hearing more about this Business Genius whose Acumen rivals and outstrips even that of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and who is even better at hiding Capital than Al Capone!
And with all that preoccupation with "Tax" maybe "Diane" is really called George and her/his Website ought to have been called Revolvercoin.con!
ReplyDeleteIt's a Start!!!!
And the latest Bulshit from ICM ....
ReplyDeletePromoting it via Email with the usual Lies.
Lies about it being the "most advanced" Mining App on the Market!
So why is it on Wix, not a professionally built Website on a dedicated Server?
Usual Lies about "Refunds" when Georgie has neither activated my Contract or offered a Refund. Doesn't reply to email about the former anyway, so how would the latter ever happen?
Lies about "the most affordable" Contract on their Platform! Oh really? I thought the Basic Contract was the most affordable, and I bought one of those on May 9th, still not activated......
So, same Lies about "Activation is quick"!
The thing with this, and every other Scam like it, is if they were that good at making Money why are they using free Domain Websites, or others that look amateurish, not having better Support available or a reasonably nice Premises to work from?
If these things were that good or efficient there'd be lots of very wealthy People wanting to invest, not in their Plans, Programs or Schemes but in the Company. Lending Money to build a professional Website, pay Staff, proper Promotion, not those disgusting HYIP Monitors, and being reliable with Customers!
And his insistence that I used their Telegram App ...... with its little fold up Aeroplane!
ReplyDeleteGeorgie has his weepy Guitar while the syphallitic old Pastry "Diane" is probably a "Tax Man"!
As other Areas of Scamcoin are probably panicking at the growing Crowds of disgruntled Victims, watching their £45,000 BTC Investment collapse to less than £30,000 instead of the "£100,000" they were told it was going to be, these grubby little Geek Crims must be worried they scammed a few conventional Heavies who might want to talk to them!
And now they're writing all out Lies...
ReplyDeleteThe Daily Express is telling us that a Chinese Currency called Vechain has "surged by nearly 2000%" which is utter nonsense because the Graph for the last Month shows quite the opposite!
While Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey's apparent support of Crypto HASN'T caused any significant rise in the Value of BTC or Etherium. Elon Musk might have caused Cumrocket to quadruple for a Blip - but that very soon receeded! Not a reliable form of Investment, but it does prove how susceptible Crypto-Values are to individual Comments and Manipulation.
ReplyDeleteAs I said, if Crypto had put its House in order years ago People's Opinion of it might be a bit more supportive. 34% of People in Britain might if it was regulated.
ReplyDeleteIf a HYIP or Mining Program could prove the huge ROIs they claim to offer wealthy People would back them. After all, why wouldn't they if they could multiply their Investment by many 100% in just days? They would invest in them like they would any other Business, giving those running them Capital to spend on better Websites, Staff, Promotion and the other things needed to run a Business.
HYIPs and similar Scams can't, thus can't attract venture Capitalists to invest in them.
The Slump in Crypto Values, causing a Trillion $ to be wiped out is partially because of that.
While any Investors don't want Stories about how their Investment might be scamming People. Cryptocurrencies were, and still are, lousy with Scams!
ReplyDeleteHere's the latest Proclamation from "George" at Instant Coin Scam .....
ReplyDelete"How about a brand new featured Tab including a fresh Video Tutorial with a bunch of News and Stuff.....?"
How about you stop f****k about and activate my Contract, still not done since you received Payment on May the 9th?
And today's Proclamation from Scammer "George"? Yet another "Tab" on his Website. Apparently "Something is in the Air" he tells us. So either we're buying Thunderclap Newman or Phil Collins Records - or "George" is busier fiddling with his Site than activating People's Contracts. It's now more than a Month since he received Payment and he still hasn't done it!
ReplyDeleteSent via his little fold-uo Aeroplane (Telegram).
ReplyDeleteI didn't know you could mine Bitcoin and Etherium doing Origami!
Here's a Comment from another of his Victims - which is quite accurate ....
ReplyDelete"All these positive reviews are bull, they are fake. I paid these guys 2 months ago, and no mining started and no contact. I have asked them to start my mining or refund my money, and all I get is crickets. but yet they keep sending out emails and posting on telegram like they are a legitimate company. BEWARE THIS COMPANY."
And another ......
ReplyDelete"So as of May 28th (less than a hour away from now) i will have been waiting 117 days for my account and 80 days for my husband's. Both are paid pro account. I worked with george and have been lied to and ignored often. They still wont tell me why both accounts are stuck although, ive done everything thing I can to prove i am who i am and work with these guys. George has gone more than a week of ignoring my last messages. And almost a month of ignoring the ask to fix my account, which should fix what they last claimed was my hold up....but for all i know that was cleared up months ago.
And yes, my posts are legitimate reflections of my treatment by this company. I'd love to be one of the glowing reviews. But, that requires actually seeing something more than the free account screen but seeing as they already have gotten $1600 from me combined, im not up to coughing up more for something ive already purchased. Twice. So what gives! Why are you holdi g up legit customers and not giving asnwers when asked why? And not giving refunds when you claim you will either for that matter."
The thing is, these and many others have used the same Payment Method I did.
ReplyDeleteWhen you buy one of these non-existent Contracts you get a drop-down Menu of Options, Visa Card, Credit Card, Bank Transfer etc, but whichever of these you use the Payment is always made in Bitcoin. This is so he can deny ever receiving it by saying the TX ID could be anyone's. Even though Visa Debit Payments aren't always refundable they are still sent to a specific Account which is attributable to someone.
"Diane" Scamartist tried changing the Bitcoin Wallet Address on her Site probably for the same reason - except I kept Screenshot Records of where I sent it, one as displayed on her Site, the other in my Xapo Account Dashboard.
"George" knows what he can do with his Insult as People have better things to do than have to report Scams on the Internet!
And here's a Thing which might confirm some of my Suspicions about who is running these Scams .....
ReplyDelete"Message in a Bottle"
Yep, that dreadful fake Punk Dirge from posh Gordon Sumner and Co, otherwise known as The Police.
On YouTube, seeing if anyone had made a Video exposing this Scam in that predictive Menu that appears when you start typing in Search was "Cloud in a Bottle Experiment".
Does this imply that "George" is a Copper on the fiddle, who is immune from Investigation because of it?
Just a Thought!!!!
Or perhaps he's a Helicopter Pilot, being "Something in the Air" or how about Thom Yorke and Co THINKING they're in the SAS? Except that'd be more Saturdays and Sundays than anything Military.
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, I don't care if he's Bernard Montgomery, the Fact is he's a Thief, selling something that's fraudulent, however he/she or they might contact People in the Town.
And if he's got a "weepy Guitar" then the Scouse Stereotype is true isn't it!
ReplyDeleteThere are heaps of other Reports on the Internet about his supposed Mining Site, all making similar Complaints.
Seems "George" is either writing his own Reviews or paying other People to.
ReplyDeleteI tend to side with those who have had to put up with the same Crap I have. After all, if 2 unrelated Sources agree then that usually establishes Truth.
And here's a Quote from one of ICMs Bulshit Reviews ......
ReplyDelete"Once you begin withdrawing funds to your bank account or whatever, you're on your path to happiness and prosperity."
Hmmm, so are we mining Bitcoin or listening to "Dark side of the Moon" here?
Here's another .....
"I began with the Pro Contract, which was a turning point for me in terms of cloud mining and earnings. I believe that the more money you have, the more mindset and self-discipline you will need. I immediately upgraded to the Ultimate contract, intrigued as to what more ICM might add to his customers' experience. This was done using my wife's account. I'd say I've been blown away by the quality of those added features."
Obviously a Pitch to get Clients to buy Upgrades, which is what "George" tried with me when I asked him to activate my Basic Contract. He told me they had "sold out" of those, which mean he knowingly and willfully sold me something that didn't exist or wasn't available, then he tries the Lure of an activated Upgrade if you pay him more Money.
Even the FBI have called ICM a Scam, so why haven't they shut down?
Maybe it's time we found out where "George" lives!
Legit Cloud Mining Sites display any sold out Contract Packages as "Currently unavailable". Something ICM either neglected to do, or deliberately didn't. The former raises Questions of Competence, the latter of Integrity and Honesty!
ReplyDeleteThat so called "review" is meant to prompt you into paying them more Money!
If "George's" magic Formula made as much Money as he claims why is his Website on Wix? I found it to be slow, clunky and amateurish and hardly something you'd expect to mine Crypto. With all that Acumen he should be able to hire a professional Website Builder to make him a purpose Built Site. I knew People who used to do this in the late 90's, including Guardian Unlimited and NME.Com
ReplyDeleteSome of the Links on it don't seem to work either, classic Symptom of a Scamsite!
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't pay him anything extra until I had Proof that it works, including several successful Withdrawals, and I certainly wouldn't refer anyone else to it for the same Reason.
And "George" buries his Head further in the Sand by sending another of his Communiqués to the Masses at ICM. This one is about Blockchains!
ReplyDeleteAll very nice "George" but rather than trying to distract us with this Crap when are we going to stop seeing this dormant ICM Dashboard Screen?
ReplyDeleteSomething night be apparent with "George's" Scam .....
ReplyDeleteSimilar to HYIPs he's probably got 2 Programs working concurrently.
There's one, where a select Group of People are paid and these are the ones you see on ICM's Blog and writing the glowing Reviews on Trust Pilot and elsewhere.
Then there are the others, whose only Task is to fund those who are paid. We pay our Contract Fees only to see nothing happen, and some of that Money then goes to the People in the first Category.
It gets worse .....
After some very frustrating Months we revisit that Dashboard and exasperatedly start to activate the "free Contract". To do this we have to share the Website on various Social Media Platforms, and obtain Referrals. We aren't told how many before that Level is achieved but it might never be.
What it does mean is we become party to luring more and more People into this Miasma - all or many of whom also pay Fees for non-existent Contracts. Monies that continue to pay those in category one!
Still no "Contract Activation" from "George" and apparently ICM have "Partners" in "Iceland", except you have to ask Me Doublespeak if that is Island Nation quite far north of here or Shop in Precinct?
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, I'm starting to think "George" isn't "George" at all, like "Diane" isn't "Diane" either, and both if them are just more of that 'Management' Shit. More to do with the "Paperwork" than any of this Bullshit Coin Nonsense.
And in the bizarre Unreality of "George's" World (I use the " because that is what he says, but experience suggests not everything he tells us is true) Basic and Advanced Contracts are back, but just for a limited time. Obviously the last bit us a pitch to get People to buy them before they're gone, while those of us whose Contracts haven't been activated might ask what he's playing at, touting for new Customers when he hasn't fulfilled the Transactions of existing ones.
ReplyDeleteWhy, for example, has he emailed us with that rather than tell us our Contracts will be activated today?
Total Scammer!!!!!
Looks like "George" is running out of Filler for his Telegram Communiqués. In the continuing Fiction run by his ICM Site he has now told us that our ICM Wallets are free. Next thing you know he'll meet someone called Andy and tell us about "Club Tropicana" for all the Seriousness we're supposed to take his App.
ReplyDeleteWe know the Wallets are free - except, if he activated the Contracts they might actually have something in them!
What he seems to be doing here is creating the Impression there's some sort of ICM Community, asking you to join his Telegram Group, while he collates a List of potential Scammees for his, and possibly other People's Scams.
I often wondered about these Binary Options Scamsites and how you would be sending them all that verification ID. Suddenly they have tons of Passports, Driving Licenses, Identity Cards and the like with the correct Serial Numbers and Bar Codes. In a World where cloning these things has become ridiculously easy you can imagine what could happen.
I've probably been categorised as a Bitcoin Hater by now, rather like People who criticised a supposed Binary Options Autotrader called "Copy Buffet" were. "Copy Buffett" was supposed to copy the Strategies of legendary Wall Street Operator Warren Buffett, except he has nothing to do with Binary Options at all.
ReplyDeleteBinary Options is Gambling. You put Money on whether a Currency will be worth more or less than another in a given time Period just like you might in a Bookmaker a Horse winning at the Derby. It isn't Trading, where you buy Stock in a Company which you keep until you decide to sell. How many did this with Microsoft or Amazon in the 90's, and became very rich?
The Internet is lousy with People who seem to confuse Scamming with Love, like we're supposed to love being scammed. We don't, and rather like the growing Band of Bitcoin Sceptics so are we, People getting fed up with these Pariahs who seem to act with impunity from both those running the Internet and the Authorities.
More Bulshit from Scammergeorge, this time about the apparent "SHA256 - Genesis of ICM Algorithm".
ReplyDeleteBut according to someone responding to a question about ICM; "You can only use SHA-256 when mining BTC, cryptography isn’t algorithm agnostic.
This is a likely a scam.
Which presumably means it won't mine Etherium at all.
The Reason he keeps posting these things is to create the Impression ICM is a current and happening thing. It's starting to look a bit pathetic, like he's burying his Head deeper and deeper in the Sand as more and more People get wise to him.
Someone should offer to subscribe but say something to the effect of "Love to get involved mate, but you haven't paid these People yet!" Then enclose the growing amount of Complaints from People on various Websites about it.
Maybe "George" is a "Dirty old Man" who runs a Rag and Bone Company called Steptoe and Son. I say this because his last pointless and useless Communique via his little fold-up Paper Plane tells us "we've got you covered". Would this be like Bert the Turtle in those American "duck and cover" Nuclear War Movies? After all, Bert was "very alert"!
ReplyDeleteThose Brambles huh!
Having investigated ICMs receipt of Payments it seems more than $9000 has been sent to the Address they supply. That's real Money - but some People seem to be turning this Fraud into an excuse for a crappy Natalie Imbruglia Song. Shows you the contempt People have these days.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they're trying to turn it into "April Skies" by the Jesus and Mary Chain!
But what I don't understand is how real Money is being openly defrauded by those Scumbags but where is the real FBI to shut them down?
I notice how "George" has reactivated the Facility to buy "Basic Contracts", complete with "$100 discount". Don't. This is just a Ruse to lure more Victims, after all, who can resist a $100 saving on something?
ReplyDeleteHe still hasn't activated mine without a Discount since May 9th, despite emails and WhatsApp.
As far as the sorry Tale of "Diane" at Coinbtc is concerned, because she told me her Company was "Panamanian" I contacted the Panama IRS to ask them about the Tax Situation. Also, because she had a German Flag on her Website I contacted theirs.
I had no Reply from either, which is a Shame. Had I paid the "Tax" she requested I might have asked either if she forwarded it to them, being "an honest Company" and all that!
Screenshots, Confirmation emails, TX Hash IDs, Send Confirmations all supplied on request as Proof at this end!
ReplyDeleteHere's a Review I posted on Trust Pilot .....
ReplyDeleteAbsolute and utter Bulcrap. Paid for my "Basic Contract" on May 9th, still no Activation despite many Emails and that WhatsApp Farce. We still get the Communiqués via their crappy Telegram group, which is probably further harvesting of Scammees for their next Fraud. Their so called "Free Contract" relies on you promoting and referring which amounts to the same thing, bringing in even more Victims.
That nonsense they keep posting, those rather patronising Lectures about Mining, Crypto etc are just to create the Impression they are busy running this huge, eco-friendly and superfast Mining Operation. Except why is it on Wix? They might as well use MySpace or WordPress instead of a dedicated Website like other Mining Companies. Of course they're eco-friendly, they don't mine anything - they just steal People's Money.
There might be a few at the Apex of the Ponzi Pyramid and we are just here to fund them, hence the need for Referrals to feed the Monster.
As for People claiming they've been using them for years, how - when Whois says they've only been online since 2020?
I'm just astonished at how they have been online for even that amount of time if the Authorities and FBI know about them!
I notice several Reviews which mention recovery Services. I would urge Caution with some of those. They might charge a % "Fee" before they get any Money for you, if they do at all. The Problem I have with the Soap Opera of Crypto and Binary Options type Scams is how those doing it know People write and post Reviews, and about those recovery Services, but it doesn't deter them one Jot.
What it does do however is gradually bring the Authorities to bare on them as Complaints pile up and Toxicity reaches a crisis Point. Even Binance - a supposedly legit Exchange - is being investigated.
If they don't put their House in order someone else will!
Proof of sending, including Hash ID, Sent from Address, Destination Address, Screen Shot of same (including qr code) and WhatsApp, plus emails provided on Request.
I was distressed to see that more than $9000 has been sent to the Address "George" uses to receive Payments.
The so called "Reviews" showing 5 Stars and Sycophancy are obviously fake because they appear in blocks of 2, 3 and 19 Hours ago. Suggesting Bots or Collusion. Either way they are ICM Shills elsewhere on their Scam Network.
When reading Reviews on Trust Pilot there are several things to look for.
ReplyDeleteHas it been flagged? If it has then any Claims made in it can't be substantiated. They might just have made it all up or are garnering Hype for whatever the Review is about.
Check to see if it has been verified. Trust Pilot will contact you asking for Verification. Some Proof that your Review is genuine, like Order Numbers, Receipts etc.
I notice a Glut of supposedly glowing Reviews but reading the Syntax look like they were written by the same People. They might try and fill them out with anecdotal Detail, but not only do they look manufactured they are all unverified.
The Pitch is obviously a Sales Patter. Trying to get you to part with Money and promote it, obtaining Referrals.
My Review is quite genuine and has been verified.
ReplyDeleteI only wish I didn't have to write it!
The Syntax is like a verbal or written Finger Print.
ReplyDeletePeople might evade the Graphologist (Handwriting Analyst) by typing something. While Typefaces can be analysed they use a Printer, which can also be forensically traced. Syntax is the Content not the Media - it's your written or spoken Narrative - and far more difficult to disguise if you want it to look natural. People might cover the spoken Narrative with an Accent - but the Syntax will give you away.
There's also Subtext - which can suggest an Agenda, and if that looks the same in different Passages of Text then it's very likely that it is the same People, particularly if it looks coercive.
And how much of that Orange Website can I connect with this Orange Stuff we have here?
ReplyDeleteOh, and don't call me Chuckie!
And what is it with Crypto and their Telegram Groups? Y'know, that rubbish with the little folding Aeroplane? Are we doing Alt-Currency or Origami here?
ReplyDeleteAnd now things have got very surreal..
ReplyDelete"George" has the diabolical Nerve to publish this Crap via his Telegram Group ......
https://www.instantcloudmining.com/post/anti-fraud-measures
A Telegram Group that you can't actually communicate with, I tried, and now the Scambag has resorted to insulting his Victims by accusing us of Fraud.
His Article is very technical, and I would say too technical. If he knew all this Stuff why is his Website on Wix and not a sophisticated Site like other Mining Platforms? He's trying to impress us with this Technospeak when, in reality, it's nothing more than a Wriggle to stave off growing Criticism from increasing numbers of People still waiting for Activation or Refunds.
And how does whatever the San Francisco based Not-for-profit Organisation feels about ICM using their Phone Number. At least that's what appears if you Google it.
ReplyDeleteAs someone who used to narrate Audio, including Documentaries and Talking Books, and attended BBC Voice Inflection Workshops I can tell you the YouTube Video ICM have produced is fake. Voice Reader Programs are rather more advanced than they were when those very robotic Voices clanked and read selected Text to you, and how we giggled at some of the Pronunciation or how they would quite literally narrate Punctuation, but you can still tell that "Elizabeth" their so called "Press Officer" is just one of these. It isn't humanly possible to reel off that sort of Script, and those long Sentences without slight drops in Volume, Speed or Breath Pauses. It's obviously a mechanical Voice because it flows far too easily.
ReplyDeleteAnd just as fake as the Video is that Phone Number.
ReplyDeleteMost of the Plaintiffs say they just leave Messages, so never actually speak to anyone, thus it's obviously a standard Voicemail Service which could be anyone.
Either "George" is lying, or the supposed N.F.P.O is, but then the latter might have got fed up with taking Calls for someone else and don't bother answering them any more. A few years ago a HYIP was using a London Phone Number and when I called it a very exasperated Bloke was an Inch away from reporting it all to the Police, he'd had so many from Clients of the Program asking about non-payments.
The N.F.P.O needs to distance itself from the Miasma otherwise People might start not trusting them either!
ReplyDeleteIt looks like "Diane" has been well at it, canvassing for Support here, or that Orange has more colour than a Chocolate one!
ReplyDeleteI did find it odd that neither the Panamanian or German Tax Offices bothered to reply. After all, it was a quite reasonable Question asking about Tax Liability (if any) in their respective Jurisdiction.
ReplyDeleteNot only is "George" insulting his Victims by accusing them of "Fraud" (Pots and Kettles spring to mind here), and of being low Quality Web Users (not too patronising and condescending then) , the Software his recent Communique goes on about can detect Blockers and Reporters.
ReplyDeletePresumably this means it can detect whether you are one of Millions of others who quite understandably block nuisance email from Scammers and Spammers, and report it as Spam. Why, if the emails in question are legit does he have a Problem with those who don't want to know? Is he part of a Network of Extortionists, or Scammers with a huge emailing List? Does it also imply anyone signing up to his supposed "Cloud Mining" Program has their email Address passed on to these Scammers?
In other Words his Program isn't just a Scam, it's also a Front for other Scammers?
Also, and an Apology should be made to all Gmail users everywhere, anyone using it is a potential Scammer. (Trying not to laugh here). Bit rich coming from a Network of People to whom Scamming is an occupational Hazard and a diabolical Insult to the Millions of honest Gmail Users!
And - oooerr - you don't suppose "Diane" is a Huntress? Nah, probably not, she's just another scammy old Pastry who took the Money and ran. Despite her Lies about renewing her Domain Registration in March this year Coinbtc ceased trading that Month.
ReplyDeleteIf her Site was legit she would have continued, dismissing Criticism as inaccurate.
The thing with these People is, if they seem incapable of grasping the Idea that they ought to keep to whatever Claim their Websites make, or act appropriately when contacted by aggrieved Customers - why should they delete your email Address during and even after their particular Scam has elapsed?
ReplyDeleteThey're like those sleazy Binary Options Companies who might also cease trading, but when they do they have 1000's of Scans of verification Documents. 1000's of Passport and Driving License JPEGs which they can then match with all those recent Utility Bills you sent them. Not to mention any Scans of Debit and Credit Cards, which they can then pair with those Documents.
And in the Land of Cryptodoublespeak and Bullshit anyone else being sent some Crap about Mining called Shamining? This is one of those things that appears on your Google Homescreen with that "Articles you might be interested in".
ReplyDeleteClick on it and guess what .......
You get to a Company called "Ambcrypto" which looks like Amber Crypto. There's that tedious and pointless Shit telling you "your Browser is being redirected etc (read diverted)". When you do a Google search about "Ambcrypto" there's a Picture of a Traffic Light. Ooohh, next thing you know these word fiddling Dictionary Eaters will "read the News today, oh boy" drone, blah, and probably mine Shitcoin with a copy of the Shite Album.
The thing is, "Ambcrypto" are based in India and I though the Government there were gradually clamping down on Crypto!
Sheesh, I hate the Beatles!
Ooohhh ...... Seems I've ruffled a few Feathers at Instant Cloud Mining. They've flagged my Review at Trustpilot because they say it's "defamatory". Obviously the good People at TP have to balance their Reviews with the Businesses that are written about so they had to oblige.
ReplyDeleteJust to see if "George" at ICM isn't suffering from the Fullofcrapitis Virus (which I will dub Foci21) let's go to the ICM App to see if he has activated my Account ......
(Pause for a couple of Minutes as I open a Browser and visit my ICM Account)
Nope, "George" has still failed to do so, so everything I have said about him is obviously true, otherwise he would activate it and we might clear up any misunderstandings!
Wonder if Astra-Zenica are working on an anti-Foci21 Vaccine!
Why would I deliberately set out to defame them or any other Scammer anyway?
ReplyDeleteI don't enjoy having to write this at all, and I seeth as I do so. I'd much rather be able to say that there's a Website that actually pays or does what it claims. That sense of Relief, not to mention being freed up to do Stuff because I have an Income from it.
Those awful Videos showing so called online Entrepreneurs reclining in Cafes, on their Laptops, iPad or Phone, supposedly making yet more Money as they order another Cappucino. Others, apparently stress free with their usual Tales of Rags to Riches, while others seem to relax because they've covered the Rent for the next year.
Drone blah, except these People don't actually exist. At least not in any real Sense.
Instead, it's just the same old stale toxic Crap.
Horrible!!!!!
Y'know - I d love to be able to write a positive Review about these People. Where you find something that pays, doesn't add a few digits to your Blood Pressure with Stress, or leave you wracked with uncertainty.
ReplyDeleteIt seems we've gone from "George" and the Beatles, to someone else and Pink Floyd.
I've been 'offered' yet more Money, and - yep, you guessed it, payable on receipt of a "Fee". (Groan, Sigh, stifled naughty Words etc)
The thing is, here is the Word for Word communique from them .....
Quote: "Do you ready to pay the Fees?"
Now, is this where I turn into the Meister of Grammar from a well known HBO Series and correct them?
Or maybe I'm an English Teacher who has just received an Email from Onestopenglish ..... which I did at 1.38am today, a few Hours before the 'Offer' at just after 5am?
Are these 2 things connected, and does it explain the Pink Puppet Show we seemed to have today?
The Woman who sent it had a very amer-english Name and is supposed to be from Illinois USA.
If she is then wouldn't her Grammar be rather better, if she isn't doesn't this mean the listing is dubious?
Either way there probably isn't any Money in it, just more of the same, the Network of supposed Money Online People, maybe created as a Distraction.
ReplyDeleteTo sum it up I then get an Email from someone claiming to be the Rev Annette Lacey asking me if I was still online trying to make Money ALONE?
Now, I wonder if that Bridge on the A369 is a "Bridge over troubled Waters"..... Roger?
Fees and Taxes ..... That scammy old Chestnut!
ReplyDeleteWhen this lousy HYIP kept me on the "Taxes" Treadmill is was Horseshit.
If someone sent me Money from America which was enough to merit a Capital Gains Tax Payment and not exempt I would pay Tax to the HMRC in Britain, not the IRS in America. I notice that there are many others reporting the same Problem as HYIP Admins ask them for the same Payments. That they were supposed to send Money as a "Fee" or "Taxes" on the amount they (the HYIP) were supposed to pay them.
The only System where a Payee pays Tax at source is as an Employee on PAYE (Pay As You Earn) which is shown as Tax and NI Contributions on a Payslip. Anything else is nonsense and a Scam.
"Fees" is Horseshit too. They might ask for "Storage Fees" but none of the Wallet Providers I ever used charged a Fee to store Cryptocurrency. If it's an arbitrary Fee they might charge to keep your Crypto then they ought to deduct it before paying you, not you paying them in advance. It's just a Ruse to screw more Money from you, just like those old 419 Email Scams that kept asking for "Legal Fees", "Transfer Fees" and the like about 18 years ago.
These Scams can only happen because somewhere in the World is a Cabinet with a Server in it, connected to the Web which could quite easily be switched off or unplugged.
The question is; why aren't they?
It's not like tackling a Robbery Crew, where you would need Surveillance, Investigations, Witnesses, Flying Squad or Swat Teams, marked Bills and tracing Money.
The Crime is happening right there on the Screen or Monitor, right now, like it was all on CCTV. If Bruce Reynolds and Buster Edwards had been so visible and blatant they'd have never got anywhere near that Train before getting pinched. The Search Engines have done half the Job for them as they help you find them.
So why are they all still active considering how obvious they are?
Fees and Taxes ...... That scammy old Chestnut .....
ReplyDeleteWhen that lousy HYIP kept me on the "Taxes" Treadmill it was Horseshit.
If someone sent me Money from America which was enough to merit a Capital Gains Tax Payment, and not exempt, I would pay Tax to the HMRC in Britain, not the IRS in America. I notice that there are many others reporting the same Problem as HYIP Admins ask them for the similar Payments. That they were supposed to send Money as a "Fee" or "Taxes" on the amount they (the HYIP) were supposed to pay them.
The only System where a Payee pays Tax at source is as an Employee on PAYE (Pay As You Earn) which is shown as Tax and NI Contributions on a Payslip. They deduct it from their Wage, not have them pay it in advance. Anything else is nonsense and a Scam.
"Fees" is Horseshit too. They might ask for "Storage Fees" but none of the Wallet Providers I ever used charged a Fee to store Cryptocurrency. If it's an arbitrary Fee they might charge to keep your Crypto then they ought to deduct it before paying you, not you paying them in advance. It's just a Ruse to screw more Money from you, just like those old 419 Email Scams that kept asking for "Legal Fees", "Transfer Fees" and the like about 18 years ago.
These Scams can only happen because somewhere in the World is a Cabinet with a Server in it, connected to the Web which could quite easily be switched off or unplugged.
The question is; why aren't they?
It's not like tackling a Robbery Crew, where you would need Surveillance, Investigations, Witnesses, Flying Squad or Swat Teams, marked Bills and tracing Money.
The Crime is happening right there on the Screen or Monitor, right now, like it was all on CCTV. If Bruce Reynolds and Buster Edwards had been so visible and blatant they'd have never got anywhere near that Train before getting pinched. The Search Engines have done half the Job for them as they help you find them.
So why are they all still active considering how obvious they are?
And it continues ......
ReplyDeleteWhile one Website puts you through all the above, then closes, they might be a Proxy for another.
One day you get an Email from them offering you Money, for - wait for it, the anticipation builds up, it becomes excruciating - yep, you guessed it, even more Money. This might be called a "Handling Fee".
They send you a Bitcoin Address to forward this "Handling Fee", telling you they will pay you once that has arrived.
Now, here's a useful Website .....
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17bbLjL7Vx5H7V3uBCs8hjz3q8rGr2oXMr
Here you can check to see Activity with each and every BTC Wallet on the Web, including the one they give you to send Money to. You can verify how much is in it to see if they can pay you!
It doesn't end there either ...
Because they might tell you they've forwarded your "Fee" to another Wallet, maybe even the one containing your supposed "Money".
Scroll through the Blockchain Page to find where your Payment was forwarded to then click on the Recipient Address.
There you can see how much is in it to verify if there's enough in it to pay you. If there isn't they were obviously telling Porkies about it being "added to your Account Balance", while the Money might never have existed at all!
Follow the Money ......
ReplyDeleteBecause Bitcoin Transactions, to the exact Satoshi, are recorded in the Blockchain Ledger you can trace where your Money has gone as it travels around the Network.
I did this with some BTC I'd sent - associated with this Scam - and was astonished at how much Money was involved.
One Wallet Address had had something like 39BTC go through it (that's 39 X £32000), another had about 112BTC which using the same Formulae is a lot of Money, but nothing prepared me for one I discovered ....
A staggering 47,504.02748534 Bitcoins. That amounts to $2,030,912,134.74!!!!
This shows you how much Money is involved in these Scams, and if it isn't somehow connected with this why did that Wallet Address appear when I began tracing a few $100s worth of BTC?
You could buy a lot of Politics, Law Enforcement, Officialdom, Media, Academe and all the other corruptible things with that sort of Money, and that's just one Wallet. How many others are there like that?
ReplyDeleteWhile "Diane" shut Shop and scarpered her Parent Company, Tophyip.biz has taken up the "Fees" and "Taxes" Scam. The syphilitic old Pastry emails you saying she is the Financier of the Coinbtc HYIP she promoted and after they closed she took over their Account.
ReplyDeleteIn that Account is not an unsubstantial Amount of Money in my Name, which she will send upon receipt of, yep you guessed it, a "Fee" just like the "Taxes" Coinbtc kept on about.
Her Strategy is this; You send the "Fee" and she conjours up an Excuse, usually that the Address it was sent to has "expired", and the sent Money added to your Account. To receive these you send another "Fee" and then she tells you that you didn't send enough (because that crappy online Currency Converter is inaccurate to up to 40USD), and sure enough, that also gets added to the Account, and yep - you must send another "Fee" and she'll think up yet another Excuse and you are sending more and more Money to obtain what you have sent and this supposed Money in an Account.
When the disgusting, rancid old Thief asked me for yet another Payment I told her that instead of sending it to her I would buy a Plane Ticket and pay her a Visit.
I'll bang on that scammy old Tarts Door until it caves in if I have to do that!
And I ain't joking!
And some of the Horseshit they come out with .....
ReplyDelete"The Wallet Address has expired" is rubbish. You could send BTC to it now, wait for the Confirmations, then visit Blockchain.com and see that it has arrived. They will get a Notification via whatever Email they have linked with it.
Their "Programmers" What Programmers? They run a standard HTML Website using whatever free Template - with HTML Banners and URLs promoting other Websites, with an Affiliate Payment for every Vict...., sorry - Client, they recruit.
All that other Crap about "Taxes" is Bulshit too - even according to our HMRC Tax Office who I spoke to about all this!
They're just grubby Scammers, but grubby Scammers who have made a lot of Money from these things, so forget any impoverished Robin Hood, making Money for the Food, Rent and Kids. Wallets associated with theirs have had anything from 39 BTC to 49,000 BTC. To get an Idea of what that means, today 1 BTC = about £32,000!
What I can't believe is how greedy and/or stupid these People are.
As Wallets associated with this Scam have had nearly 50,000 BTC in them (read: 50,000 X £32,000) why are they nickel and diming over a few measly Bucks? Having since used a better Currency Exchange Rate Utility the Difference is about $12, while - even a few $100,000 is nothing compared to the Billion + that sort of Money is.
Why are they splitting Hairs about a few Days, using it as an Excuse to screw a few 100 Dollars?
The Stupidity is how they're prepared to risk all that for this sort of Money.
And how they operate shows how unethical they are.
ReplyDeleteThis business with not quite sending enough Money....
In good faith I used that useless default Google Currency Exchange App which gave me a Figure that was about $11 less than it should have been. I just sent the amount it told me.
The recipient kept the Money, told me I hadn't sent enough, then asked to send the whole amount again.
If I was in a Store and bought something for $100 but only gave the Clerk $95 they wouldn't keep it and ask for another $100. They'd ask for the remaining $5!
And to prove this I'll call into the Los Angeles and New York Pizza Shop next door to the Hosting Company that provides the Internet Facility for Tophyip.biz and do exactly this when I get a Pizza! I'll get someone to video it.
ReplyDeleteThis is just before I call into the Web Hosting Company and ask them why they are being an Accessory to Fraud? Before that I will explain to a Cop why I'm doing it, and will ask someone from an LA based Community Law Center to accompany me. After all, how many of their, or similar, Clients have paid into the Make Tophyip.biz rich appeal?
Heck, Micheal Moore door-stepped K-Mart in "Bowling for Columbine" getting them to stop selling Bullets!
There are so many Excuses they can think of aren't there ....
ReplyDeleteThere was a technical problem, please send again.
There was a Fire, Flood, Power Cut and the Server crashed, could you resend the Money?
They suffered Amnesia for a few Hours, forgot the Admin Password and the Private Key to the Wallets, please resend the Money.
The Building collapsed - please resend.
There was a Coup - Currency devalued, please resend.
A Rat chewed through the Data Cable, please resend.
Previous Admin suffered spontaneous Human Combustion, please resend to new Admin.
They were momentarily abducted by Aliens - please resend via the Martians.
The Computer went down with Covid19, the Virus wiped everything, please resend.
I sent it on a Day with a "Y" in it, send again.
The Exchange Rate went up or down in the Hour it takes to confirm.
The Admin got shot, went to Hospital, came home again, please resend.
Could you pay "Taxes" (again)?
And on and on it goes .....
Not quite as extreme as what they've been doing in El Salvador - burning Crypto-ATMs - but someone could always spray "SCAM HQ" on the Wall of that Building!
ReplyDelete"You didn't send enough" is a weak arsed Horseshit Excuse anyway, regardless of what any exchange rate Utility tells you .....
ReplyDeleteA Bitcoin Transaction takes up to, and sometimes more than, an Hour to go through all the Confirmations. The Process is quite slow at the moment anyway due to a lot of use.
At about 7.05am Bitcoin was valued at £30,849. Fast forward an Hour to 8.10am it had dropped to £30,387. That's a £462 decrease in Value. So if you sent any Coin at 7.05am it was worth less when it reached its destination at 8.10.
Tophyip.biz tell me they have a "fixed" rate, and quote me the amount I should send in BTC. The thing is, they don't say that until I sent the 0.01BTC about 2 Hours previously.
If they have a "fixed" rate rather than one subject to market fluctuations then they should be asking for Payment in BTC - precalculated at the $450 amount.
They don't, so when you send them Money it might not be $450, so they ask you to send it again. They don't refund you the Money you have sent either!
And that's the Scam isn't it!
And anyone who goes to Repdiggers Website Review of Tophyip.biz will see this .....
ReplyDelete1448 Scenic Way Georgetown, IL 61846, Georgetown, 61846, IL, United States
It's the supposed Address of the Website and it's Owner, allegedly "Margaret Kinney", except if you copy and paste the Address in full on Google Maps or any Search Engine it doesn't exist. There is no "Scenic Way" in Georgetown Illinois!
Maybe that scammy old Wheedler thinks she's Oliver Twist, always asking for more, except while she isn't Robin Hood, because she robs from People to give to herself, if she was in the Workhouse, asking for more Gruel, the other Residents might find her Stash of Bitcoins while they have none!
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, here's how I suspect she/he/they operate .....
What better way to gain someone's Confidence than by telling them that there is no Risk to an Investment because they will refund it if the HYIP doesn't pay?
The thing is, that's what they say they'll do to get you to drop your Guard when you invest in one or more of the HYIPs they promote. Heck, Tophyip will give me back my Deposit if I don't get paid!
But what if THEY also run them, and thus get the money from them too?
Hey you, get off of the Cloud ....
ReplyDelete"George" and "Alberto" are still at it. Still posting fake Reviews to lure People into their fake "Mining" Program. Lots of others, justifiably pissed at how they've suffered the same as I did from them. Sent Money, no account Activation - no Reply to their Questions about this, Months and Months of it etc, but why are they active at all if even FBI Field Officers have called them a "Scam"?
Oh, and got an Email today telling me they will be offline for a few Maintainance Hours on Saturday December 11th. Maybe they should stay like that!
Their creating a so called "Mining" Site on Wix would be like someone doing same with WordPress, MySpace, Facebook or even here on Blogger. If they're supposed to be the most advanced Mining System on the Internet why aren't they using the most advanced Website instead of a free Internet Facility like Wix?
.... And I've noticed how they've shilled a few Reviews to force Complaints and Scam Victims off the first Page of Trust Pilot! Thus, a cursory Glance at Trust Pilots Website only shows you supposedly glowing Reviews!
ReplyDeleteWhile I eagerly await "George" at "Instant Cloud Mining" to activate an Account I paid for almost a year ago (and oh, how the anticipation is excrutiating), if "Diane" at the now defunct Coinbtc.Info and the Admin at Tophyp.biz have anything resembling a Conscience here's the BTC Address the former needs to send 10BTC to or the latter $125,000 of Bitcoin. Neither of whom have done either since 2017!
ReplyDelete34Hv98KxXyLtUVsUJ1ui2sHz243giDfWQ5
(Groan) And to show how a lot of these things are Barnham and Bailey, pre-emptive Horse Shit, having googled "Tophyips.biz Scam" some Crap appears where someone called "George Brent" calls it a Scam, followed by something by a Website called "Emily news.com" where we are "alerted" etc.
ReplyDeleteI've often wondered if certain Pop Phenomena might be a Scam - and how this pre-emptive Bit of Chicanery somehow confirms it. Scammers with a weepy Guitar, whatever next?
What we could do as a Protest against them is find out who hosts the Scamsites. Dress up as theatrical Villains (striped Jerseys, Zorro style Masks, Bag over the Shoulder with "Swag" written on it) and pretend to rob each other outside the Building. Someone could video it and post it on their Social Media.
To ensure you are not distracted or 'deviated' from the big Story please continue to read ......
ReplyDeletehttps://metrowynn.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-caucasus-most-dangerous-place-on.html?showComment=1648634912082&m=1#c7286817598861430454
Meanwhile, yet another S(c)pam Mail from "George" at Instant Scam Mining telling us how "bitcoin is spiking again" (except it hasn't) and urging us to buy up their so called mining Packages. They tell us that there is a 30 day refund Policy" after the Account has been activated, except they don't activate anything. Thus, you send them Money and nothing happens, and you won't get a Refund because your Account hasn't been activated.
Just another grubby Scam Artist on the Internet that really ought to be shut down, except I notice how Wix has done nothing of the sort, despite the growing throngs of People who have been scammed by them.
Cointbtc still owe me the 10 BTC they've owed since 2017, while Tophyip.biz still haven't paid the "$125,000" of BTC they were going to send, despite 2 "processing" Payments from me.
If either one or other have anything resembling a Conscience maybe they'd like to ....
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Otherwise, maybe one of Vladimir Putin's Missiles ought to misfire or malfunction and hit them instead!
Let's get one thing clear here .....
ReplyDeleteThese People aren't some Robin Hood Character - stealing a few £s to buy Food or pay the Rent, and the amounts of Money involved is huge.
Tophyip.biz gave me a BTC Wallet Address to send the "Processing Fee" to, a different one each time. All BTC Payments can be tracked using the Blockchain Ledger. I used the TX ID to trace my Payments which went to the given Address. Wait a few Hours and you see how they have emptied that Wallet and forwarded it to another, then another.
Not only does the Ledger show you each Transaction and Coins Journey through the Blockchain, it also shows you how much those Addresses are, and were, worth. How much is in it, and how much was in it. Elsewhere in that Journey was a Wallet Address that was worth Billions of $ of Bitcoin, which hadn't then been used to disburse smaller amounts to other Wallets. In other words, it looks like they've made a vast amount of Money with their Scams, all of which ends up in that Account.
Some Crypto Prop on YouTube which seems to have as much to do with "Fortune Tellers" and "Gordon" - "John", "John", "John", "John" etc.
ReplyDeleteSupposed to be an Ad but goes on for an Hour ......
So, sat there "watching Telly" - "John" I see this Guru is waffling on about how Crypto went up in recent years, like .Com did, like Amazon, Apple, AoL, Qualcom etc also did. Drone, blah blah ....
The thing is, either Cointbtc (now defunct but it's former owner is probably still trading) or Tophyip.biz still haven't paid what they owe me. Cointbtc owe 10 Bitcoins, Tophyip.biz still owe "$125,000" - payable to this BTC Address ......
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If the Crypto Community read this maybe you'd like to tell those Responsible to keep to their Promise because if they don't it makes everyone else look bad.
Meanwhile, the Cointbtc.info/Tophyip.biz Debacle continues.....
ReplyDelete6 Months after the second "Processing Fee" was made I sent them an email reminding them they still haven't sent my Payment.
Here's the Exchange ....
"You still haven't paid me the 125usd in BTC you were supposed to send at least 6 Months ago, despite receiving 2 "processing payments" amounting to nearly £1000 from me.
Kindly send the outstanding Payment to
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Regards
Their Reply ....
"You need to pay 0.0105 BTC"
My Retort ......
"I've already paid you ..... twice!"
Exasperating isn't it, and no - I'm not sending them any more Money!
Just to prove I'm not making this up and that Scam Site does exist here it is
ReplyDeletehttps://www.tophyip.biz/
Although I have to ask why it's online at all and it hasn't been closed down? That Crap one of those Hyips tell you about "safe" and "guaranteed" is horseshit. Tophyip.biz (AKA scammy old Bastards) claim they will reimburse your Investment if one of their Programs don't pay. Not only did Cointbtc not pay, Tophyip.biz didn't refund my Investment.
The Crap they tell you about "Tax" is nonsense too. Charging a Fee and calling it "Tax" is bogus, and while I would be quite prepared to pay 10% Capital Gains Tax on anything they did pay and I was liable for I'm not paying their non existent "Tax" at all.
Follow the Money ....
Bitcoin can be traced as it moves through the Blockchain. I did this using the Blockchain Website, starting with the Address I sent it to. This was emptied, but emptied to another with quite a few Bitcoins in it. Then there was another, and even I wasn't prepared for the vast amount of Money it has contained (Millions). So it's not as if Tophyip.biz are broke and stealing Money to pay Rent or buy Food.
As I said, maybe one of Putin's Rockets might misfire and accidentally on purpose land on their House!
Meanwhile, back in Scamland I lived in hope that Tophyip.biz might have paid Money's owed into the Bitcoin Address supplied......
ReplyDeleteBut nope, nothing, nish, nada, zilch etc.
So I thought I'd do some digging ...
They have this IP Address; 66.151.174.11 found using Who is Diagnostics - a Utility that tells which Webhosting Company they use. 66.151.174.11 is an IP supplied by a Company called Internap Holdings LLC.
Unfortunately here's what Scamalytics had to say about them ....
"We consider Internap Holding LLC to be a potentially medium fraud risk ISP, by which we mean that web traffic from this ISP potentially poses a medium risk of being fraudulent. Other types of traffic may pose a different risk or no risk. They operate 870,369 IP addresses, most of which are running servers and anonymizing VPNs. They manage IP addresses for organisations including Internap Holding LLC, Internap Network Services Corporation, and Internap Corporation. Scamalytics see low levels of web traffic from this ISP across our global network, some of which is, in our view, fraudulent. We apply a risk score of 32/100 to Internap Holding LLC, meaning that of the web traffic where we have visibility, approximately 32% is suspected to be potentially fraudulent."
So not much hope there then, but why are Hosting Companies like this allowed to continue without further Scrutiny?
Meanwhile, it looks Ike Facebook has descended into Farce ....
ReplyDeleteIn a Group called "Bitcoin Earning Free and Paid" there are continuous Postings by someone going on about "Prophecy" and "Preying" etc. Suffice to say this has got nothing to do with either and has probably got more to do with a YouTube Video called "the 7 most evil Musicians in History" containing some Crap about very contraversial former Lost Prophets Frontman, Ian Watkins.
Not only yet another grubby YouTube Channel - but also increasingly irrelevant Posts on an increasingly bizarre and groteque Social Media Utilty.
Here's an Idea ....
ReplyDeleteInstead of galavanting around the Ukraine, wasting Tax Payers Money and Voters Time on pointless Legislation, imposing Sanctions that are not only useless, but also damaging to our own Economy and Social Cohesion, how about Prime Minister's and Presidents getting these things sorted out?
If either leaned rather persuasively on the Perpetrators of these very visible multi-Billion Currency Unit Crimes and ensured they kept to their side of the Deal the World and some People's Lives won't only improve, it'd also deter the Antagonists from doing it.
If I received a Notification from Coinbase telling me either 10btc or the equivalent of the promised "$125,000" had been paid into my Account not only would I heave a huge Sigh of Relief, I'd also quite gladly pay the 10% Capital Gains Tax to our HMRC.
Note, I'd pay it to OUR HMRC not whatever "Tax" these con artists insist on.
After all, whether you're a Constituency MP or a Congressman/woman or Prime Minister or President isn't part of your Job Description about helping those you represent?
It looks like the HYIP Racket is still at it.......
ReplyDeleteAfter a few Months of making an Enquiry to yet another of these Programs this arrives from them ...
"Hello ,
Do you want to invest in our program?"
I reply ....
"Is it still working?"
They respond .....
"Yes, we are paying all the time. never stop."
So I do some Research and tell them .....
"Ok.
I've just done a Search on the Blockchain Tracker App and it tells me
the Address you give on your Website has the following ........
"This address has transacted 4 times on the Bitcoin blockchain. It has received a total of 0.00650000 BTC ($128.02) and has sent a total of 0.00650000 BTC ($128.02). The current value of this address is 0.00000000 BTC ($0.00)."
It goes on to say this happened in May/June of this year, but there's nothing more recent than that.
Just thought I'd ask before sending any Money."
That was on the 8th of November and they don't seem as prompt to reply.
So if they are "paying all the time, never stop" who are they paying to if no-one seems to be sending investment Money to the Address they show on their Website? The last Transactions were 5 Months ago, so who have they paid more recently?
All the Addresses supplied above have since expired because this has gone on for so long.
ReplyDeleteIf you're reading this at whatever Coinbtc.info is these days or Tophyip.biz and you have anything resembling a shred of Decency maybe you'd like to pay the outstanding 10 BTC you still owe me after I paid the "Fees" you asked for.
Contact me at the Address supplied by this Site and I'll give you the updated Address you can send it to.